Who would trust Bojo or Trump

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And what?s in it for the secret cabal that rules America without any input from any of its presidents?

There's a few reasons I can see including maintaining failing hegemony, empire & resources. The U.S abducted Maduro & threatened Venezuela with invasion & death if they didn't hand over their oil rights. That cut off one source of oil to China. Next they executed the leader of Iran, in the hope that it too would cower in fear of the U.S military & submit. It hasn't worked though. Oil is approaching $130 a barrel right now & nations are half emptying their strategic reserves as a stop gap measure. Trump is now begging NATO & even China for help. I don't think China will be helping anytime soon, considering they understand whats going on & the Iranians are allowing them safe passage. Anyway. Israel's Iron dome has a finite amount of interceptors & I don't fancy their chances if this drags on. The U.S can't produce them as fast as Israel expends them.

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There's a few reasons I can see including maintaining failing hegemony, empire & resources. The U.S abducted Maduro & threatened Venezuela with invasion & death if they didn't hand over their oil rights. That cut off one source of oil to China. Next they executed the leader of Iran, in the hope that it too would cower in fear of the U.S military & submit. It hasn't worked though. Oil is approaching $130 a barrel right now & nations are half emptying their strategic reserves as a stop gap measure. Trump is now begging NATO & even China for help. I don't think China will be helping anytime soon, considering they understand whats going on & the Iranians are allowing them safe passage. Anyway. Israel's Iron dome has a finite amount of interceptors & I don't fancy their chances if this drags on. The U.S can't produce them as fast as Israel expends them.

This is all down to the stupidity of Trump and his idiot henchmen.  To suggest that presidents have no influence over decisions like the ones that have been taken seen the Orange Buffoon got back into power is just absolute nonsense imo.  You claim to know otherwise so provide the evidence.

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This is all down to the stupidity of Trump and his idiot henchmen.  To suggest that presidents have no influence over decisions like the ones that have been taken seen the Orange Buffoon got back into power is just absolute nonsense imo.  You claim to know otherwise so provide the evidence.

I'm not saying they have no influence at all, I'm saying they all follow a pre-set agenda. Maintaining hegemony through the petro dollar system & toppling countries that oppose it.  There's been concerted effort to encircle Iran which is evidenced by the spread of American military bases around the country. Same way China is encircled in the Asia pacific. Trump couldn't change these plans if he wanted to. Every president that gets elected continues the forever wars around the globe, getting rid of leaders that oppose the petrodollar. Gadaffi was overthrown in Libya under the Obama administration because he threatened to leave the dollar & trade the nations oil wealth in other currencies. Saddam suffered the same fate when he left the dollar based system, under the guise of capturing his weapons of mass destruction. Now we get the story that we need to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons, or liberating their people from the regime & bombing our way to peace. We haven't been given the true reason but if you add Irans oil wealth to that of Venezuela it wipes out Americas forty trillion debt burden so that could be a reason.

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Why do you think Trump has attacked Iran VS?  Out of interest. Do you think he just got out of bed on the wrong side & felt moody so he thought he'd just go fire Tomahawk missiles at a girls school & incinerate 170 children?

Anyway. Joking about dead Iranian schoolgirls aside, I don't see how Trump can get out of this mess. Iran aren't willing to negotiate anymore because they were negotiating when the US & Israel attacked them.

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Marco Rubio claimed that Israel were about to attack Iran & that U.S bases would be attacked if that happened so they had to act first in self defence. So there's another reason they've given. Israel have wanted to destroy Iran for decades & the Christian Zionist lobby are a big influence in the U.S.

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Anyway, I've filled my petrol tank & the larder is stocked with a few weeks worth of food so hopefully I won't get caught up in the coming panic buying, when people realise what's going to happen to the price of oil if the Gulf countries still can't export at all.

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Why do you think Trump has attacked Iran VS?  Out of interest. Do you think he just got out of bed on the wrong side & felt moody so he thought he'd just go fire Tomahawk missiles at a girls school & incinerate 170 children?

Anyway. Joking about dead Iranian schoolgirls aside, I don't see how Trump can get out of this mess. Iran aren't willing to negotiate anymore because they were negotiating when the US & Israel attacked them.

I suspect any answer I give to that question other than the one you deem to be correct would simply be met with scorn and contempt so I shan?t bother, suffice to say I don?t believe, based on the evidence you have provided do far, that there is some pre-set agenda that has been in place for years leading up to this point.  Is threatening Canada and Greenland part of some pre-set agenda too?  Would Venezuela have been attacked under a President t Kamala Harris?  I do agree that the USA are in deep shit now though so if this was part of some pre-set agenda it doesn?t say much about America? High Ups ability to think things through very carefully.  Hell, it?s got Donny?s petulant paw prints all over it, of course it?s down to him at the end of the day.

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Marco Rubio claimed that Israel were about to attack Iran & that U.S bases would be attacked if that happened so they had to act first in self defence. So there's another reason they've given. Israel have wanted to destroy Iran for decades & the Christian Zionist lobby are a big influence in the U.S.

the US far right aka MAGA Proud Boy types  also has a huge contingent of suprmacists and anti-semites on its roll call.  Marco Rubio is full of shit like the rest of them.

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The USA has spent roughly a billion dollars a day blowing up Iran, how?s that going to help with the National Debt?

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Credit due to the EU and Starmer for not getting dragged into Donny?s mad escapades this time, for now anyway.  I guess if Reform had been in charge we?d be sending every last pitiful resource we have to fight alongside our beloved US ally.

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There's a few reasons I can see including maintaining failing hegemony, empire & resources. The U.S abducted Maduro & threatened Venezuela with invasion & death if they didn't hand over their oil rights. That cut off one source of oil to China. Next they executed the leader of Iran, in the hope that it too would cower in fear of the U.S military & submit. It hasn't worked though. Oil is approaching $130 a barrel right now & nations are half emptying their strategic reserves as a stop gap measure. Trump is now begging NATO & even China for help. I don't think China will be helping anytime soon, considering they understand whats going on & the Iranians are allowing them safe passage. Anyway. Israel's Iron dome has a finite amount of interceptors & I don't fancy their chances if this drags on. The U.S can't produce them as fast as Israel expends them.

Oil is currently $93.50 a barrel, where are you getting approaching $130 a barrel right now from?

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Oil is currently $93.50 a barrel, where are you getting approaching $130 a barrel right now from?

Looked at the wrong chart it's at $100

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The USA has spent roughly a billion dollars a day blowing up Iran, how?s that going to help with the National Debt?

Exactly. It's caught in the same death spiral as every empire before it.

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Credit due to the EU and Starmer for not getting dragged into Donny?s mad escapades this time, for now anyway.  I guess if Reform had been in charge we?d be sending every last pitiful resource we have to fight alongside our beloved US ally.

No we're just blowing all our money trying to kill Russians instead.

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I suspect any answer I give to that question other than the one you deem to be correct would simply be met with scorn and contempt so I shan?t bother, suffice to say I don?t believe, based on the evidence you have provided do far, that there is some pre-set agenda that has been in place for years leading up to this point.  Is threatening Canada and Greenland part of some pre-set agenda too?  Would Venezuela have been attacked under a President t Kamala Harris?  I do agree that the USA are in deep shit now though so if this was part of some pre-set agenda it doesn?t say much about America? High Ups ability to think things through very carefully.  Hell, it?s got Donny?s petulant paw prints all over it, of course it?s down to him at the end of the day.

Greenland is in a strategic position with regards to Russia. The idea of acquiring Greenland has been floated before Trump came in to office.