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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1500 on: May 15, 2017, 08:04:19 PM »
Indeed ... I get bruises from the dog jumping up at my legs.....

I hadn't even thought about the dog------although injuries from her seem to be confined to my clothes!

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« Reply #1501 on: May 15, 2017, 08:06:44 PM »
I hadn't even thought about the dog------although injuries from her seem to be confined to my clothes!

Is it possible some of Joanna Yeates injuries were related to her cat?? we do not know how easily Joanna Yeates bruised..

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1502 on: May 15, 2017, 09:15:49 PM »
I was about to right a different post when I stumbled across something... It may mean something ... it may not... but it had me thinking....

I needed  some information from Joanna Yeates wordpress and whilst looking I came across this....

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There is currently NO CONFIRMATION on the identity of the body found in longmead lane near Bristol.

Longmead Lane ??  I had seen it before and just assumed a slip up... but I'm not positive about that now...

The other odd thing with with Longmead Avenue is if someone travelled from it to Longwood Lane they would go the Beggar's Bush Road route..... Wasn't that the alternative route that had been suggested Dr Vincent Tabak may have taken...

There is a Longmead Avenue in Bristol which is a 17 mins drive to Longwood Lane...  Did anyone Joanna Yeates know live  on Longmead Avenue... was it part of the Investigation as :

(A): Someone connected to Joanna Yeates ?

(B): More CCTV footage of Joanna Yeates ??

Was it just an error or a slip on the keyboard of someone who was Investigating so many Avenues and wrote what they were thinking...


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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1503 on: May 18, 2017, 01:10:39 PM »
Absolutely.

If it was difficult to recover her body, as the use of all the fire and rescue equipment suggest, then it is quite likely that many of Joanna's 43 injuries were obtained during this procedure. also, we need to know whether or not she had any injuries prior to her attack and death.

Jo worked outdoors. Who is to say that she did not acquire some injuries during the course of her work? I can count four or five on myself that have been acquired through cooking and ironing!

Pathologists are very quick at determining the type of injuries on a body, and whether or not they occured post mortem. I would go as far as to suggest that this will be a major part of the exercise and nothing else will be looked at until each and every injury is documented. If the report suggests that there was a violent and sustained attack on Yeates you can be fairly certain that the injuries are of a type the supports this argument.

If you are in any doubt about how easy it is to spot the differences, even to an untrained eye, try this exercise. Get a large piece of fresh steak on a chopping board, smash one end of it with a hammer six times in the same spot and then examine the damage, and specifically look for the bruising (which won't happen). Then get a sharp knife and stab the meat at the other end six times in the same area and the examine the bleeding.

Now stick your leg on the board at belt it six times as hard as you can with the same hammer and watch what happens over the next minute or so, and the for the next couple of hours. Then stab your other leg six times and watch what happens.

Compare piece of steak with leg. Note any differences.

Congratulations, you are now a pathologist.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1504 on: May 18, 2017, 01:15:48 PM »
 
Pathologists are very quick at determining the type of injuries on a body, and whether or not they occured post mortem. I would go as far as to suggest that this will be a major part of the exercise and nothing else will be looked at until each and every injury is documented. If the report suggests that there was a violent and sustained attack on Yeates you can be fairly certain that the injuries are of a type the supports this argument.

If you are in any doubt about how easy it is to spot the differences, even to an untrained eye, try this exercise. Get a large piece of fresh steak on a chopping board, smash one end of it with a hammer six times in the same spot and then examine the damage, and specifically look for the bruising (which won't happen). Then get a sharp knife and stab the meat at the other end six times in the same area and the examine the bleeding.

Now stick your leg on the board at belt it six times as hard as you can with the same hammer and watch what happens over the next minute or so, and the for the next couple of hours. Then stab your other leg six times and watch what happens.

Compare piece of steak with leg. Note any differences.

Congratulations, you are now a pathologist.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1505 on: May 18, 2017, 01:19:43 PM »
Oh, for goodness sake, AH-----------this is horrendous. Obviously, I am not cut out to be a pathologist!!!

I remember the judge at VT's trial instructed the jury to concentrate only on the bruises, as they could only have been inflicted during life. So, there were obviously a lot of injuries that could well have been inflicted after death---probably from the frozen weather and from the rescue operation.


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« Reply #1506 on: May 18, 2017, 01:42:13 PM »
Oh, for goodness sake, AH-----------this is horrendous. Obviously, I am not cut out to be a pathologist!!!

I remember the judge at VT's trial instructed the jury to concentrate only on the bruises, as they could only have been inflicted during life. So, there were obviously a lot of injuries that could well have been inflicted after death---probably from the frozen weather and from the rescue operation.

But what discolouration did these bruises have and could it be established how old or fresh they were ?????

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1507 on: May 18, 2017, 05:18:27 PM »
One thing I have just considered as to how Joanna Yeates may have been outside her Flat on the 17th december 2010...

Did she smoke????

We don't know... But that is a reason for her not to be inside the flat... And when people drink , they tend to smoke more frequentley....

Just a thought... Her friend emma did.. and in the photo its hard to determine what Joanna Yeats is doing with her hands ...

A picture of what appears to be Rebecca Scott smoking...

I'm sure I have a picture of Joanna Yeates at a bar when shes abroad and has cigerttes next to her... I'll try and find it....

Obviously I cannot say that they are 100% Joanna Yeates cigerettes....


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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1508 on: May 18, 2017, 05:45:03 PM »
Well, a relevant point, I suppose!!
And I still bear in mind the fact that Vincent was said to have bought Rizla papers-----and apparently, he didn't "smoke".

I have to consider these things!!  it's the sort of person I am, etc etc.

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« Reply #1509 on: May 18, 2017, 05:46:25 PM »
Well, a relevant point, I suppose!!
And I still bear in mind the fact that Vincent was said to have bought Rizla papers-----and apparently, he didn't "smoke".

I have to consider these things!!  it's the sort of person I am, etc etc.

when did he buy the Rizzla papers ????

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1510 on: May 18, 2017, 07:08:37 PM »
The woman who owned the corner shop said he did.

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« Reply #1511 on: May 18, 2017, 07:22:43 PM »
The woman who owned the corner shop said he did.

On what day was he supposed to have bought Rizla's ??

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1512 on: May 18, 2017, 08:22:51 PM »
On what day was he supposed to have bought Rizla's ??

No idea, but I remember the owner of the local shop being interviewed and she said that VT used to go in there for Rizla papers and something else---cant recall what.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1513 on: May 20, 2017, 11:17:40 AM »
oopsie... I had already covered that... sorry


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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #1514 on: May 20, 2017, 06:14:57 PM »
The top picture, is that a young JY in the front? That's definately a Rizla she's rolling. Might be more reason for her to be outside as has already been said. Now that is interesting, to me at least.
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