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ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #390 on: October 18, 2016, 09:41:51 PM »
So what do you think "It" is?

The document.

Offline mercury

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #391 on: October 18, 2016, 09:46:53 PM »
The document.

Thats an interesting proposition, might make a good novel, the document that wrote itself...author Ferryman



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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #392 on: October 18, 2016, 09:54:40 PM »
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #393 on: October 18, 2016, 09:57:11 PM »
Harrison's document.

No.

Harrison's recommendation of searches were those contained in his first report.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #394 on: October 18, 2016, 09:59:49 PM »
No.

Harrison's recommendation of searches were those contained in his first report.

So whose document?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #395 on: October 18, 2016, 10:13:09 PM »
No.

Harrison's recommendation of searches were those contained in his first report.

So who wrote this?



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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #396 on: October 19, 2016, 01:01:29 AM »
No.

Harrison's recommendation of searches were those contained in his first report.

That cannot possibly be correct.  As G-Unit has pointed out ad infinitum, the search criteria and consequently the recommendations were influenced by the ongoing investigation and were modified accordingly requiring new searches.  One cannot possibly believe for a moment that a set of recommendations provided at the outset would never change in a live investigation.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #397 on: October 19, 2016, 10:45:20 AM »
So who wrote this?



Harrison's terms of reference.

Clearly Harrison didn't write his own terms of reference.

They were delivered to him and he tailored his search-strategy according to them.

Those are the terms of reference, incidentally, that make it plain the Madeleine enquiry was a "murder" enquiry.

Harrison concludes his third, and final, report by making plain he had no clue what happened to Madeleine.

What happened in the middle is the intriguing bit ....
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #398 on: October 19, 2016, 12:23:28 PM »
Harrison's terms of reference.

Clearly Harrison didn't write his own terms of reference.

They were delivered to him and he tailored his search-strategy according to them.

Those are the terms of reference, incidentally, that make it plain the Madeleine enquiry was a "murder" enquiry.

Harrison concludes his third, and final, report by making plain he had no clue what happened to Madeleine.

What happened in the middle is the intriguing bit ....

Before moving on please confirm your acceptance of the fact that Harrison wrote three reports as below.

Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document on 23rd July
NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine on 31st July
OP TASK Madeleine McCann Search Activity 1 – 8 August 2007 on 22nd August
 
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #399 on: October 19, 2016, 12:41:47 PM »
Before moving on please confirm your acceptance of the fact that Harrison wrote three reports as below.

Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document on 23rd July
NPIA OP TASK Search Doc Beach and Marine on 31st July
OP TASK Madeleine McCann Search Activity 1 – 8 August 2007 on 22nd August

Harrison wrote three reports, all incorporating the terms of reference handed to him by Amaral's boss that he was to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered, and worked to them.

Harrison offered to consider other possibilities or scenarios (sic) on request.

There is no evidence he was requested to do so.

Harrison concluded his third, and final, report by making plain he had no clue what happened to Madeleine.

I finish with a challenge.

Even theoretically, what does anyone think might have arisen from the inspection at the gym that could benefit the enquiry?

And another question:

Of England and Portugal, who was the lead-investigator in the shelved enquiry?
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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #400 on: October 19, 2016, 02:54:04 PM »
Harrison wrote three reports, all incorporating the terms of reference handed to him by Amaral's boss that he was to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered, and worked to them.

Harrison offered to consider other possibilities or scenarios (sic) on request.

There is no evidence he was requested to do so.

Harrison concluded his third, and final, report by making plain he had no clue what happened to Madeleine.

I finish with a challenge.

Even theoretically, what does anyone think might have arisen from the inspection at the gym that could benefit the enquiry?

And another question:

Of England and Portugal, who was the lead-investigator in the shelved enquiry?

Thank you. I don't really see any point in setting off on another round of assumption and innuendo. The facts have been established already.

In his first report Harrison recommended searches based on;

the possibility that Madeleine McCann has been murdered and her body is concealed within the areas previously searched by Police in Zone 1 around Praia Da Luz.

At a meeting on 23rd July Encarnacao, Harrison and SCI Neil Holden met to discuss the recommendations and Encarnacao chose which searches to carry out. One of the possible sites was;

The apartment in which the McCann's had stayed may present further opportunities to search. The use of a specialist EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog) and CSI dog (human blood detecting dog) could potentially indicate on whether Madeline's blood is in the property or the scent of a dead body is present. In relation to the dead body scent if such a scent is indicated by the EVRD and no body is located it may suggest that a body has been in the property but removed. This search process could be repeated in all the apartments that were occupied by the friends holidaying with the McCann's.

The very first search was carried out at the above sites;

On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.

The dogs alerted in 5A, the apartment from which M McCann had disappeared.

Part of Harrison's brief was to;

Consider further opportunities or areas for search in order to locate M McCann as applicable to the latest intelligence and information provided.

The next event following the dog alerts in 5A was a request on 1st August for additional search warrants;

1 - Rua das Flores, no 27, Vivenda Vista do Mar, Luz Park, Luz, Lagos (the present residence of the McCann family in Luz)
2 - Hired vehicle used by the McCanns, the "Renault Scenic", number plate 59-DA-27.

Further, and of no small importance, it is also requested that a magistrate issue search warrants for [the above two locations] to enable us to recover new items/clues.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/59-DA-27.htm

Harrison doesn't specifically say that he recommended adding the new sites following the dog alerts, but he does say in his final report that they were part of his recommendations;

All accommodation occupied by the McCann family and their friends as well as any hired vehicles.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

I think it's reasonably clear from the timeline of events and from the request for new search warrants that the dog alerts led to the inclusion of the McCann's villa and hire car in the searches. It's also clear that Harrison claimed responsibility for recommending these additional searches. Attempting to suggest otherwise fails because there just isn't any evidence to support such allegations.

Referring to the way in which reports are worded isn't evidence.
Criticising the choice of search areas isn't evidence.
Criticising search methods isn't evidence.









 



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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #401 on: October 19, 2016, 03:44:31 PM »
So I take it you concede that Harrison was handed a brief by Amaral's boss to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered, but could, personally, find no evidence to corroborate that conclusion, and ended his third, and final, report by admitting that he, Harrison, had no clue what might have happened to Madeleine?

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #402 on: October 19, 2016, 03:52:05 PM »
Show me where he 'proves' that Encarnacao chose to carry out searches not recommended by Harrison then.

What's the point in re-showing what's already been shown countless times.

If you don't believe the truth first time, odds are you're never going to believe it.

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #403 on: October 19, 2016, 04:25:26 PM »
So I take it you concede that Harrison was handed a brief by Amaral's boss to investigate that Madeleine had been murdered, but could, personally, find no evidence to corroborate that conclusion, and ended his third, and final, report by admitting that he, Harrison, had no clue what might have happened to Madeleine?

Just a slight correction; Harrison wasn't asked to investigate whether or not there had been a murder. He was asked to advise on how and where to search for remains in Zone 1.

His opinion at the end of his final report isn't that he had no clue what had happened to Madeleine; probably because that wasn't a question he was asked.

His opinion was that if she had been murdered the remains were likely to have been disposed of in the ocean.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

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Re: Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.
« Reply #404 on: October 19, 2016, 04:46:19 PM »
What's the point in re-showing what's already been shown countless times.

If you don't believe the truth first time, odds are you're never going to believe it.

You may honestly believe what you say, but you can't call it 'truth' ferryman. If Harrison had written in his final report 'The PJ/Encarnacao decided to add extra searches to those which I recommended' fine, but he didn't. Instead he claimed to have recommended all the searches.
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