Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.

[John]

Harrison stated very clearly no inferences can be drawn from unconfirmed alerts

And Grime stated that no 'evidential reliability' could be placed upon them.  That however does not answer the question which Ferryman asked at the beginning and that was who decided to extend the dog inspections.   My own view is that it was a joint decision taken by the PJ and the English police involved in the inquiry.

[ferryman]

And Grime stated that no 'evidential reliability' could be placed upon them.  That however does not answer the question which Ferryman asked at the beginning and that was who decided to extend the dog inspections.   My own view is that it was a joint decision taken by the PJ and the English police involved in the inquiry.

G-Unit began the thread.

But that was (and remains!) my question.

However, my answer is different ....

[slartibartfast]

G-Unit began the thread.

But that was (and remains!) my question.

However, my answer is different ....

Why do you care?

[ferryman]

Why do you care?

Elsewhere on this board I have posted the proof of how a certain dog-handler turned the Haut de la Garenne enquiry into a fiasco of a hunt for (non-existent!) 'evidence' of murder most foul.

I see not a shred of evidence that the trend began in Jersey; considerable evidence that it began before.

[slartibartfast]

Elsewhere on this board I have posted the proof of how a certain dog-handler turned the Haut de la Garenne enquiry into a fiasco of a hunt for (non-existent!) 'evidence' of murder most foul.

I see not a shred of evidence that the trend began in Jersey; considerable evidence that it began before.

Doesn't explain why it concerns you so much?

[G-Unit]

G-Unit began the thread.

But that was (and remains!) my question.

However, my answer is different ....

You correctly say it's your answer. That's the problem you have because you have no supporting evidence for your answer.

[ferryman]

You correctly say it's your answer. That's the problem you have because you have no supporting evidence for your answer.

Not so much the evidence as the proof is explicit to all except the (metaphorical) blind!

[Alice Purjorick]

Not so much the evidence as the proof is explicit to all except the (metaphorical) blind!

Yeah well I get bored with reams of cut and paste and all that haraz so why not list it down as bullet points you know like two columns actions and proof such that we simpletons can assimilate?

[ferryman]

Yeah well I get bored with reams of cut and paste and all that haraz so why not list it down as bullet points you know like two columns actions and proof such that we simpletons can assimilate?

Harrison's summary of all searches suffices:

The timeline of these searches was as follows:
 

On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.
 
On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.
 
On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.
 
Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa.
 
On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.
 
On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.
 
On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.
 
On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.
 
On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by PJ officers.
 

Harrison acknowledges Grime and his dogs only in those inspections Harrison recommended

None others.

If you carefully read the 'official' record of the inspection in the gym, you will see it is a pile of crock, unless you believe they managed to lay out the clothes in lighting-fast time, following the apparent 'inspection'.

It seems obvious that PJ cribbed off the instructions Mark Harrison gave them after both inspections at villa and gym.

That Harrison waited until after those inspections to issue  instructions, itself, says everything.

[Alice Purjorick]

Harrison's summary of all searches suffices:

The timeline of these searches was as follows:
 
Harrison acknowledges Grime and his dogs only in those inspections Harrison recommended

None others.

If you carefully read the 'official' record of the inspection in the gym, you will see it is a pile of crock, unless you believe they managed to lay out the clothes in lighting-fast time, following the apparent 'inspection'.

It seems obvious that PJ cribbed off the instructions Mark Harrison gave them after both inspections at villa and gym.

That Harrison waited until after those inspections to issue  instructions, itself, says everything.

Of what significance is that?

Give us your detailed explanation then.

"It seems" is not proof of anything

[Brietta]

I think Martin Grime would have been as gob smacked as anyone when the videos in their edited versions ended up in the public domain.

I still don't know why the videos have no time or date stamp as Harrison said they would and no-one has come up with an explanation why that should be.

[Eleanor]

I think Martin Grime would have been as gob smacked as anyone when the videos in their edited versions ended up in the public domain.

I still don't know why the videos have no time or date stamp as Harrison said they would and no-one has come up with an explanation why that should be.

They should not have been.  But Levy somehow managed to get his hands on them, and then edited them.

The whole thing was a disgrace.

[jassi]

They should not have been.  But Levy somehow managed to get his hands on them, and then edited them.

The whole thing was a disgrace.

Indeed. Far better that the video had appeared completely unedited.

[John]

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It seems obvious that PJ cribbed off the instructions Mark Harrison gave them after both inspections at villa and gym.

That Harrison waited until after those inspections to issue  instructions, itself, says everything.

That tells me that Harrison wasn't nigh too enthused by the methodology, not that he wasn't supportive of the incentive itself.  This of course raises the interesting question as to why these instructions weren't issued BEFORE ANY SEARCHES TOOK PLACE?

[G-Unit]

That tells me that Harrison wasn't nigh too enthused by the methodology, not that he wasn't supportive of the incentive itself.  This of course raises the interesting question as to why these instructions weren't issued BEFORE ANY SEARCHES TOOK PLACE?

The obvious answer is that we don't know because he didn't explain. Perhaps they were particularly pertinent to the searches of the Murat property and the vehicles which were due to take place over the following days? That's a guess, but it's just as valid as other guesses.