Jez Wilkins hand written statement.

[Robittybob1]

I have been working my way through sections of the hand written statement made by Jeremy Wilkins on his return to London.
It would be an interesting exercise to see where the statement varies from the translated/retranslated version that appears in the PJ files.  Would someone like to help me to do the transcription of the 8 page statement?
And to note the errors made.
Then they could be published and analysed.

[Robittybob1]

Jez' statement is one of the few where we have the original English and the translated Portuguese statements side by side and then we have the retranslated statement also in the file (the file we read is a translation of the Portuguese rather than just writing  down what Jez actually wrote). 
With this situation we have the first chance of assessing what sort of errors are being made in the translations.

Basically what he says is very simple but there are a couple of passages that I think we should apply Peter Hyatt's statement analysis techniques to.
8 pages of scribble to decipher, lots of cross-outs and some missing text (I not sure of the cause of this), and at least two major translation errors that I'm aware of at this stage. 

It should be an interesting process so is there anyone willing to help me?

[ShiningInLuz]

Jez' statement is one of the few where we have the original English and the translated Portuguese statements side by side and then we have the retranslated statement also in the file (the file we read is a translation of the Portuguese rather than just writing  down what Jez actually wrote). 
With this situation we have the first chance of assessing what sort of errors are being made in the translations.

Basically what he says is very simple but there are a couple of passages that I think we should apply Peter Hyatt's statement analysis techniques to.
8 pages of scribble to decipher, lots of cross-outs and some missing text (I not sure of the cause of this), and at least two major translation errors that I'm aware of at this stage. 

It should be an interesting process so is there anyone willing to help me?

Can I suggest a link to this 8 page statement would be a start.

[Robittybob1]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm
either click on the pictures of the handwritten page 1 of 8 to 8 of 8.
or the links below.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/1of8-5b4412cc.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/2of8-15cb98c2.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/3of8-344dafc7.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/4of8-f5aa5847.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5of8-1147e33f.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/6of8-81754622.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/7of8-8cb5136c.gif
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/8of8-5b6d7788.gif

[G-Unit]

You do know it wasn't written by Wilkins, of course? Like the PJ interviews he talked and the police wrote.

[Robittybob1]

You do know it wasn't written by Wilkins, of course? Like the PJ interviews he talked and the police wrote.

From the hand writing I believe it is Jez.  London police - how could this be proved, who should initial the cross outs if the errors were made by the police officer?  All the minor corrections are initialled by JW so in my understanding that is Jez who did that.  Even though I did wonder why Jez would spell his kids and wife's name incorrectly.
OK so you think this is a verbal statement written by the police.  How can we prove that?

I see some corrections are initialled PR the policeman's initial, and the 7s are written differently eg the date is probably written by Jez (signed and dated. the policeman may have dated it). But none of the other "r"s in the text are like the PR of the policeman's hand writing.
On the bottom of the page the policeman signs his signature and you see his style and it is different to Jez' hand writing.  The P of Praia da Luz and the P of his signature are distinctly different.

[G-Unit]

From the hand writing I believe it is Jez.  London police - how could this be proved, who should initial the cross outs if the errors were made by the police officer?  All the minor corrections are initialled by JW so in my understanding that is Jez who did that.  Even though I did wonder why Jez would spell his kids and wife's name incorrectly.
OK so you think this is a verbal statement written by the police.  How can we prove that?

It is the normal method of producing statements.  It would be a departure from the norm for a witness to write it themselves.

[ShiningInLuz]

It is the normal method of producing statements.  It would be a departure from the norm for a witness to write it themselves.

My most recent experience of this confirms it.  The policeman asked questions, I answered, he wrote up a statement by hand, I read what he had written and signed to declare it was correct. 

Compare the writing on the body of the statement against the signature and the minor corrections.  One person or two?

[Robittybob1]

It is the normal method of producing statements.  It would be a departure from the norm for a witness to write it themselves.

Well looking at the diagram you can see hand writing. Is this done by Jez when he draws and labels it.  The Policeman initials it and dates it the same style as in the statement. PR 7/05/2007
But the writing in the statement is different to the diagram, could there be 3 people involved, the writer, Jeremy and the witness (PR  Constable Paul Ridley)?

My most recent experience of this confirms it.  The policeman asked questions, I answered, he wrote up a statement by hand, I read what he had written and signed to declare it was correct. 

Compare the writing on the body of the statement against the signature and the minor corrections.  One person or two?

It is tricky there seems to be 3 styles.  All depends on who writes the labels on the map.

[Robittybob1]

OK I accept it is written by Paul Ridley.
Signed and dated by Jez.

[Robittybob1]

My most recent experience of this confirms it.  The policeman asked questions, I answered, he wrote up a statement by hand, I read what he had written and signed to declare it was correct. 

Compare the writing on the body of the statement against the signature and the minor corrections.  One person or two?

Was this in England? 

[ShiningInLuz]

Was this in England?

Yes.

I have probably encountered more police officers per year in Luz, but Luz is not normal.

[Robittybob1]

Yes.

I have probably encountered more police officers per year in Luz, but Luz is not normal.

Gosh! 

[G-Unit]

Was this in England?

Jeremy Wilkins made no statements directly to the PJ, except for his conversation about 'rasta man'.

[Robittybob1]

Jeremy Wilkins made no statements directly to the PJ, except for his conversation about 'rasta man'.

I understand that, but I was asking SIL where he had made his statement and that was in England too.
We are not looking into his first statement but the second one. Recorded by him alone (not as a joint statement.)
The joint statement seems to be untranslated for it is presented word for word of what he said.
This is a bit odd in itself for all the other PJ files are presented as Portuguese versions.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY_BRIGET.htm