Author Topic: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?  (Read 32871 times)

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Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #165 on: January 16, 2017, 07:06:26 PM »
OK so they didn't lie about that, unbelievable isn't it.  Yet the search warrant states they are allowed to stay, well at least one of them was.  Shame Corner didn't stay and video them setting up the ruse I believe the PJ set up on Cuddle Cat.
But we know now he was clean as a whistle.
Maybe Jon Corner lied about it as well.  You do know that it's not just the McCanns who lie don't you?  It's all their family, friends and supporters too.  They just lie, lie, lie, almost continuously all day long, about everything.  It's weird. 

*Note to Mods ^^^joke, not libel. 

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #166 on: January 16, 2017, 07:08:52 PM »
Maybe Jon Corner lied about it as well.  You do know that it's not just the McCanns who lie don't you?  It's all their family, friends and supporters too.  They just lie, lie, lie, almost continuously all day long, about everything.  It's weird. 

*Note to Mods ^^^joke, not libel.
I was taking you quite seriously till I got to the end. 
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Offline Brietta

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #167 on: January 16, 2017, 08:19:22 PM »
BILTON: He was right to sense a change. On the day filming was due to start the police arrive at the McCann villa. As they pictures show, they would return.

CORNER: They took most of their clothing, they were taking even the wet clothes out of the washing machine. I was aware that the cuddlecat was boxed up and we were asked to leave the villa.

BILTON: The crew?

CORNER: Everybody.

It appears they were never told that according to the search warrant, there was a right to have an observer present during the search.

A lie of omission on the part of the Policia Judicairia?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #168 on: January 16, 2017, 08:28:10 PM »
It appears they were never told that according to the search warrant, there was a right to have an observer present during the search.

A lie of omission on the part of the Policia Judicairia?

Omission. Paiva was one of the officers who arrived at the villa at 6pm. He spoke English & would have known the McCanns rights, especially being their FLO.
Murat was able to stay in his mother's villa when the PJ searched with the dogs.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #169 on: January 16, 2017, 08:37:18 PM »
Omission. Paiva was one of the officers who arrived at the villa at 6pm. He spoke English & would have known the McCanns rights, especially being their FLO.
Murat was able to stay in his mother's villa when the PJ searched with the dogs.
I'd say it was the video cameras and two camera men that were the issue.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #170 on: January 16, 2017, 10:22:07 PM »
Good example.  What happened when Gerry said "no comment" in that instance?  A whole new conspiracy was born!

So the McCanns were adjusting their behaviour so the sceptics had nothing to gossip about. Is that what you are saying?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #171 on: January 16, 2017, 10:28:39 PM »
So I'm right.

The McCanns were not keen to advertise to the world that the place they last lived with their daughter before she vanished was about to be invaded by police.

I defy any, here, in identical circumstances, to say they would be.

And I will call into question their honesty.

I always lie.
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Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #172 on: January 16, 2017, 10:37:52 PM »
So the McCanns were adjusting their behaviour so the sceptics had nothing to gossip about. Is that what you are saying?
I'm saying that whatever the McCanns say or do you will harshly criticise and then tell us what they should have said or done instead.  It's tiresome, childish, and very predictable.

Offline Brietta

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #173 on: January 16, 2017, 11:13:28 PM »
Omission. Paiva was one of the officers who arrived at the villa at 6pm. He spoke English & would have known the McCanns rights, especially being their FLO.
Murat was able to stay in his mother's villa when the PJ searched with the dogs.

In other words a coach and horses was driven through the McCann's legal rights if the truth was not disclosed to them.

There was obviously no language barrier because Paiva was one of the attending officers.  Therefore it seems the failure was intentional and was done intentionally to deprive the McCanns of their legal rights.

It was a lie.  A very serious lie at that, as the comparison with the Murat search makes clear. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #174 on: January 16, 2017, 11:22:00 PM »
In other words a coach and horses was driven through the McCann's legal rights if the truth was not disclosed to them.

There was obviously no language barrier because Paiva was one of the attending officers.  Therefore it seems the failure was intentional and was done intentionally to deprive the McCanns of their legal rights.

It was a lie.  A very serious lie at that, as the comparison with the Murat search makes clear.

If it was done you have no evidence it was intentional.
Anyway look on the positive side, were it to finish up before a judge any halfway decent brief would be able to make capital out of it so not too much lost eh?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #175 on: January 16, 2017, 11:33:56 PM »
I'm saying that whatever the McCanns say or do you will harshly criticise and then tell us what they should have said or done instead.  It's tiresome, childish, and very predictable.

You really have to make your mind up Alfie. Either the McCanns have absolutely no interest in what sceptics say, bigger fish to fry bladdy, bladdy blah or they hide things in case sceptics question their actions. Which one is it ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #176 on: January 16, 2017, 11:49:08 PM »
In other words a coach and horses was driven through the McCann's legal rights if the truth was not disclosed to them.

There was obviously no language barrier because Paiva was one of the attending officers.  Therefore it seems the failure was intentional and was done intentionally to deprive the McCanns of their legal rights.

It was a lie.  A very serious lie at that, as the comparison with the Murat search makes clear.
The keyword is "if".

The rest is speculation.
What's up, old man?

Offline misty

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #177 on: January 17, 2017, 12:01:26 AM »
The keyword is "if".

The rest is speculation.

Portuguese justice system has an odd way of allowing an arguido to watch the PJ search his property but kicking the victim's parents out of their residence for the same purpose.


Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #179 on: January 17, 2017, 12:20:45 AM »
yep, we noticed.

I am sure if you ask Slarti nicely he will explain it to you as he seems to be the only one who has ever cottoned on when I have posted that; it is a sort of intelligence test...................................... @)(++(*

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