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Offline Angelo222

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #150 on: January 14, 2017, 12:10:12 PM »
If
But no sign in 10 years and the investigation closing
Get real

So Scotland Yard have spent £10 million for nothing iyo?
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stephen25000

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Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #151 on: January 14, 2017, 12:13:42 PM »
I'm afraid to say Gerry McCann was talking put of his derreiere when referring to the non-reliability of dogs, and his comment to Sandra in that infamous interview said it all.

Offline Brietta

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #152 on: January 14, 2017, 01:08:07 PM »

If the dog's alerts were conclusive "evidence" why did the Portuguese Prosecutors dismiss it out of hand instead of laying charges against Madeleine's parents and proceeding to trial on the strength of it?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #153 on: January 14, 2017, 01:13:21 PM »
Davel in his desperation to protection his own point of view appears to be confusing evidence with proof of a crime.

#grime tells us that the alerts are not reliable evidence...fact

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #154 on: January 14, 2017, 01:14:28 PM »
Did you say "EVIDENCE"?   8@??)(

yes i said evidence....did you read the post ...the dogs are used to find evidence....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #155 on: January 14, 2017, 01:15:45 PM »
I'm afraid to say Gerry McCann was talking put of his derreiere when referring to the non-reliability of dogs, and his comment to Sandra in that infamous interview said it all.

gerry was absolutely right and the irony in his statement has obviously gone right over your head

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #156 on: January 14, 2017, 01:21:50 PM »
If the dog's alerts were conclusive "evidence" why did the Portuguese Prosecutors dismiss it out of hand instead of laying charges against Madeleine's parents and proceeding to trial on the strength of it?

The prosecutors saw the alerts as raising 'founded suspicions' of the McCanns which led 'inexorably' to them being made  arguidos, they did not dismiss them out of hand;

Confronted with these elements, namely the possibility of the existence of a cadaver in the apartment and in the vehicle that was used by the parents, founded suspicions of their involvement were raised.

As they were summoned to depose again, while there was no plausible explanation for those situations and as they were to be confronted with the dogs' findings and with the lab information, which were susceptible of rendering them responsible as authors of crimes (at least, of neglectful homicide and of concealment of a cadaver), they were, obligatorily and inexorably, made arguidos,
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #157 on: January 14, 2017, 01:24:04 PM »
The prosecutors saw the alerts as raising 'founded suspicions' of the McCanns which led 'inexorably' to them being made  arguidos, they did not dismiss them out of hand;

Confronted with these elements, namely the possibility of the existence of a cadaver in the apartment and in the vehicle that was used by the parents, founded suspicions of their involvement were raised.

As they were summoned to depose again, while there was no plausible explanation for those situations and as they were to be confronted with the dogs' findings and with the lab information, which were susceptible of rendering them responsible as authors of crimes (at least, of neglectful homicide and of concealment of a cadaver), they were, obligatorily and inexorably, made arguidos,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

what lab information would that be...total rubbish
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #158 on: January 14, 2017, 02:32:49 PM »
thank you for confirming that talking out of your backside is an acceptable phrase on this forum


you are talking out of your backside......the alerts themselves are not reliable evidence

Is any evidence reliable?  The alerts are fact and as such are evidence.  What interpretation is thereafter put on that evidence depends on the other evidence found.  In the Maddie case no other evidence has been establish but that can change over time.
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stephen25000

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Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #159 on: January 14, 2017, 02:33:07 PM »
in you limited opinion

he is neither arrogant nor stupid in mine

Don't you  mean 'your' opinion . 8((()*/

stephen25000

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Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #160 on: January 14, 2017, 02:33:56 PM »
Is any evidence reliable?  The alerts are fact and as such are evidence.  What interpretation is thereafter put on that evidence depends on the other evidence found.  In the Maddie case no other evidence has been establish but that can change over time.

Indeed.

However, if a body was discovered....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #161 on: January 14, 2017, 02:34:24 PM »
Is any evidence reliable?  The alerts are fact and as such are evidence.  What interpretation is thereafter put on that evidence depends on the other evidence found.  In the Maddie case no other evidence has been establish but that can change over time.

according to grime the alerts are not reliable evidence as they stand.....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #162 on: January 14, 2017, 02:34:53 PM »
#grime tells us that the alerts are not reliable evidence...fact

The term is evidence reliability but that was based on what was known ten years ago.  Modern forensics could change all that.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #163 on: January 14, 2017, 02:37:19 PM »
The prosecutors saw the alerts as raising 'founded suspicions' of the McCanns which led 'inexorably' to them being made  arguidos, they did not dismiss them out of hand;

Confronted with these elements, namely the possibility of the existence of a cadaver in the apartment and in the vehicle that was used by the parents, founded suspicions of their involvement were raised.

As they were summoned to depose again, while there was no plausible explanation for those situations and as they were to be confronted with the dogs' findings and with the lab information, which were susceptible of rendering them responsible as authors of crimes (at least, of neglectful homicide and of concealment of a cadaver), they were, obligatorily and inexorably, made arguidos,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

I couldn't have put it better thus the alerts were evidence allbethey uncorroborated.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #164 on: January 14, 2017, 02:40:09 PM »
I couldn't have put it better thus the alerts were evidence allbethey uncorroborated.

#that post mentions lab information...there was none its pure bs