The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Caroline]

Do your mean Bamber was also seeing Virginia or Anji or both - as well as JM?

The way I read it, he was seeing Julie, then Virginia, then Anji. He was two timing Julie but I think Virginia was pretty much finished with him when. Anji picked him up.

[Nicholas]

The way I read it, he was seeing Julie, then Virginia, then Anji. He was two timing Julie but I think Virginia was pretty much finished with him when. Anji picked him up.

I’m not reading it like that - Hence why I’d like to find out the date he met the Greave sisters

Hollys also introduced their mother now - so maybe she can tell us more about her and where she’s gained this alleged knowledge from?

[Nicholas]

The way I read it, he was seeing Julie, then Virginia, then Anji. He was two timing Julie but I think Virginia was pretty much finished with him when. Anji picked him up.

According to Anji’s Sun interview she appears to have suggested JM’s alleged anger was misplaced towards her sister Virginia and it was her (Anji) who Bamber was cheating on her with not Virginia?

[APRIL]

I’m not reading it like that - Hence why I’d like to find out the date he met the Greave sisters

Perhaps they did threesomes?

[Caroline]

According to Anji’s Sun interview she appears to have suggested JM’s alleged anger was misplaced ?

Well, I guess she would - not wanting her (or her sister_. to be considered as the 'other woman' - especially given that she would have had a downer on Julie.

[Nicholas]

Perhaps they did threesomes?

Did they? I don’t know April I’m trying to establish when Bamber first met the Greaves sisters (family) and who exactly he received a call from at SC flat that triggered JM to throw a wooden box at a mirror?

Was Bamber cheating on all 3 of them at the same time?

[Myster]

Perhaps they did threesomes?

No wonder he looked knackered after all that action...

[Common sense]

OK, and yes, I agree, which is where the ridicule comes from, like the 'knitting circle' and the Bamberettes. The CT are like the Bamber version of the WI - at least that's how I perceive them.

I have the same opinion of the Bamberettes as you call them although I refer to them more unkindly as mind controlled cult members, but it's important to delineate the CT from those that mindlessly repeat their nonsense.

The CT itself is something of an enigma, are they serious in their beliefs or do they deliberately spread long debunked misinformation because they know it will attract unquestioning new recruits?

Can you imagine them working for years, baking cakes and spouting lies about CAL and then allowing someone intelligent such as Holly to come along and crack the case? ( assuming the case can be cracked )

[APRIL]

Did they? I don’t know April I’m trying to establish when Bamber first met the Greaves sisters (family) and who exactly he received a call from at SC flat that triggered JM to throw a wooden box at a mirror?

It's the time-frame I'm questioning. He's still -just about- with Julie, but by the time of his arrest, following a holiday with Brett, he's managed to bag himself a pair of sisters, one of whom seemed to think they had an ongoing relationship.

[Myster]

Did they? I don’t know April I’m trying to establish when Bamber first met the Greaves sisters (family) and who exactly he received a call from at SC flat that triggered JM to throw a wooden box at a mirror?

Was Bamber cheating on all 3 of them at the same time?

It was Virginia, although she wasn't one by that time.

[Nicholas]

Well, I guess she would - not wanting her (or her sister_. to be considered as the 'other woman' - especially given that she would have had a downer on Julie.

Bamber would have ‘idealised, devalued & discarded’ all 3 without doubt

But Anji appeared to have still been useful to him

[APRIL]

No wonder he looked knackered after all that action...

I knew there had to be an explanation to that photo!!!

[Nicholas]

It was Virginia, although she wasn't one by that time.

If it was Virginia why has Anji suggested otherwise ?

“”Anji later told the Sun that she and Jeremy had become lovers before his arrest and it was their affair, rather than with her sister, that had led to Julie being so inflamed with jealousy that she named him as the murderer.””
(Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from her book, ‘The Murders at White House Farm’)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA317&lpg=PA317&dq=the+sun+anji+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=h8PnNHTkTl&sig=ACfU3U1NpuMY9WW_GJ0UKEtiEAeZmVwONg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwics4rWi4LpAhWEoFwKHYIID8oQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20sun%20anji%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false
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[Common sense]

Do you think he’s manipulating Mark Newby?

I think he'll certainly try but MN is perhaps wise to it. I have not seen MN use the word "innocent" or "proof" in regard to Bamber at all, preferring ambiguous terms "the new evidence strongly suggests the chain of events were not... etc.. I think McKay tried to avoid egg on his face in a similar way.

The Secret barrister wrote recently that the idea of a lawyer not wanting to take on a high profile case is laughable, especially a lawyer promoting himself as a champion for MOJs. Think of the publicity! 

[Nicholas]

The way I read it, he was seeing Julie, then Virginia, then Anji. He was two timing Julie but I think Virginia was pretty much finished with him when. Anji picked him up.

Anji ‘picked him up’ or Bamber begin to idealise her?

JM without doubt went no contact after the mirror incident

“When a survivor has gone no-contact—in other words, the survivor has chosen to disengage completely from the abusive person—often the person with narcissism will attempt to see if the door is still open for more narcissistic supply. He or she may “hoover” prior survivors by emailing, texting, phoning, or showing up at a survivor’s workplace or residence under the pretext of apologizing for transgressions, delivering flowers, hitting the reset button, or feigning illness or a need for assistance (money, return of belongings, etc.).

This cycle is akin to the Power and Control Wheel often referred to in the domestic violence recovery community. The hoover maneuver is an attempt to see if a prior target of abuse can be conned into another cycle of abuse, resulting in the abusive person reclaiming a sense of power and control by causing pain (emotional and sometimes physical) to a target.
https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/hoover-maneuver-the-dirty-secret-of-emotional-abuse-0219154