Lifting the shutters from the outside.

[jassi]

Very lax behaviour, wouldn't you agree?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I am just Horrified! It really does beggar belief.

[Robittybob1]

Very lax behaviour, wouldn't you agree?

I think you'd have to put that down to the NZ wine they had before hand.

[Robittybob1]

Going through Rachel's statement and found this in her rogatory interview.

"1578 'Did you at any point yourself see the shutters up and the window open''
 Reply 'Yes'.
1578 'When was that''
 Reply 'When, when Fi and Kate were outside, erm you know standing by the shutters, by the window'."

So the list of people having seen the shutters up is growing.  Now includes Kate, Gerry, Amy and Rachel.
You would wonder why Fiona can't be more definite?

[Robittybob1]

The article I reading said this "In his witness statement, Mr McCann told police that workmen had gone into their holiday apartment two days before Madeleine vanished to fix a broken window shutter in the main bedroom."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/1584584/Madeleine-McCann-complained-to-mother-Kate-about-being-left-crying-alone.html

Trying to think whether I had actually read that in the statements. Looking it up on Google I find I'm not the only one "And now for something completely different....

"The reporter also told how Gerry revealed to police in his statement that workmen had come into their holiday flat to fix a broken window shutter in the main bedroom two days before she went missing."

WOW, never heard that before...."
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?61836-Madeleine-McCann-General-Discussion-Thread-No-21/page7&styleid=21

So are there witness statements from Gerry we don't have?  Or am I just crap and remembering all the detail.

[Heriberto Janosch]

I noticed this was shown on the Panorama programme. However, Heri's demonstration can only be done if the window is unlocked, to be able to slide it open to reach the winding mechanism. Do these windows have locks on the inside? Please ,please don't tell me the windows were not locked!  Leaving three children alone in an apartment with unlocked windows on ground floor...I am too scared to think about that.

Thanks to Amaral we know the locking automatic mechanism of 5A window was not funtioning properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjtbaFZ01bA&t=422

[pathfinder73]

I wouldn't want to blame that on Dianne.

Dianne herself said they twisted and got stuck as she did it. It makes no sense for Kate to get her to try and raise them allegedly after she claims Gerry had done so. Not hard to find the areas to investigate in this case.

4078    “And were you able to?”

 Reply    “I think, I think I got it up so far but it became sort of err twisted. But everybody was in such a panic really.”

4078    “Did you see that window at the time?”

 Reply    “No I, my recollection is that err I think the shutter had been let back down again or err I don’t, I don’t recall the window being open at the time I went so whether they’d closed it because obviously it was draughty for the twins but I, I can’t be a hundred percent sure about that.”

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

[Robittybob1]

Thanks to Amaral we know the locking automatic mechanism of 5A window was not funtioning properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjtbaFZ01bA&t=422

What makes you say that Heri?

To me he is showing us how the window moves in the unlocked position..  I don't actually see Amaral or his adviser activating the window lock.
Prior to the bit you show https://youtu.be/hjtbaFZ01bA?t=420 the window is unlocked.

[Robittybob1]

Dianne herself said they twisted and got stuck as she did it. It makes no sense for Kate to get her to try and raise them allegedly after she claims Gerry had done so. Not hard to find the areas to investigate in this case.

4078    “And were you able to?”

 Reply    “I think, I think I got it up so far but it became sort of err twisted. But everybody was in such a panic really.”

4078    “Did you see that window at the time?”

 Reply    “No I, my recollection is that err I think the shutter had been let back down again or err I don’t, I don’t recall the window being open at the time I went so whether they’d closed it because obviously it was draughty for the twins but I, I can’t be a hundred percent sure about that.”

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

You wrote:
"It makes no sense for Kate to get her to try and raise them"
Who said Kate made Dianne do this?

[pathfinder73]

Kate was repeatedly going on about the shutter being raised so Dianne went outside to try and raise them as they were down not up as the McCanns claim. They were the only two adults in the apartment at that time - 5 minutes after the alarm was raised.

[Robittybob1]

Kate was repeatedly going on about the shutter being raised so Dianne went outside to try and raise them as they were down not up as the McCanns claim. They were the only two adults in the apartment at that time - 5 minutes after the alarm was raised.

You have made that up.  Where was Fiona?

[jassi]

You have made that up.  Where was Fiona?

If Diana was in 5A with Kate, then Fiona must have been with her own children at that time - unless she left them alone

[Robittybob1]

If Diana was in 5A with Kate, then Fiona must have been with her own children at that time - unless she left them alone

They had the baby monitor so they were left alone every night, nothing new there.

[Robittybob1]

Kate was repeatedly going on about the shutter being raised so Dianne went outside to try and raise them as they were down not up as the McCanns claim. They were the only two adults in the apartment at that time - 5 minutes after the alarm was raised.

When Fiona lifted the shutter as she says she did, she wasn't in the apartment but outside of it.

[jassi]

They had the baby monitor so they were left alone every night, nothing new there.

No mention of them setting it up in 5A.
In fact it might have been one of the things left at the table and collected by Diane