CMTV Gonçalo Amaral - O Enigma - with English subtitles

[pathfinder73]

You know better than Harrison?

You obviously think you do.

In his report a 2 year old was concealed under rocks so how is it impossible for a 3 year old not to be? Fact is the possibly remains.

[slartibartfast]

In an interview to the El Mundo magazine, Amaral said that Madeleine had been hidden on the beach and, when asked whether, by that, he meant buried, replied, we do not know.

Presumably a grudging (unacknowledged) nod to the fact that Harrison explicitly ruled out burial.

So no contradiction between Amaral and Harrison then?

[Benice]

If you cannot see anything wrong with Amarals false allegations about Dr. Payne for instance -  and  believe they were not meant to damage his character in the most appalling way possible - then what IYO were his intentions?

AFAIAC - if it waddles like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck - it definitely isn't a camel.

AIMHO

(must go out now)

[Angelo222]

I am of the opinion that whoever the tour operators at the OC were at the time - they or their representatives would have attended the monthly meetings mentioned and would be aware of the activities of a serial sexual predator in the area.     It's just common sense.

If you cannot see anything wrong with Amarals false allegations about Dr. Payne for instance -  and  believe they were not meant to damage his character in the most appalling way possible - then what IYO were his intentions?

AFAIAC - if it waddles like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck - it definitely isn't a camel.

AIMHO

(must go out now)

Are you suggesting the Gaspers invented the story?   Amaral only repeated what the police were told by two witnesses who chose to come forward.

Do you consider the conduct acceptable or do you put it down to typical male stupidity while relaxing on holiday when the vino is flowing?  I hasten to add as a male that I found the observation somewhat sick so I can completely understand where Mrs Gasper was coming from.

[stephen25000]

Are you suggesting the Gaspers invented the story?   Amaral only repeated what the police were told by two witnesses who chose to come forward.

Do you consider the conduct acceptable or do you put it down to typical male stupidity while relaxing on holiday when the vino is flowing?  I hasten to add as a male that I found the observation somewhat sick so I can completely understand where Mrs Gasper was coming from.

Seconded.

[G-Unit]

Seconded.

Thirded.

[ferryman]

Are you suggesting the Gaspers invented the story?   Amaral only repeated what the police were told by two witnesses who chose to come forward.

Do you consider the conduct acceptable or do you put it down to typical male stupidity while relaxing on holiday when the vino is flowing?  I hasten to add as a male that I found the observation somewhat sick.

Good grief!

Mr Gaspar's statement reads, almost, as a glowing character-reference for David Payne; while his wife's statement as we read it on line leaves room for considerable doubt that Mrs Gaspar actually said what is attributed to her.

Let me put it like this. 

What woman, harbouring the suspicions about a man Mrs Gaspar's statement (as we read it on line) suggests she harboured about .... ......, would allow that man anywhere near hear daughter; let alone bath her?

I suggest, none!

Meanwhile Amaral couldn't even get right what the statement said.  According to him, Mrs G wouldn't allow .... ...... anywhere near her daughter.

All that aside, what was observed, in another country a very long time before, was perfectly legal, even if regarded (by some) as in poor taste; utterly irrelevant to anything related to Madeleine's disappearance. 

ETA: Amaral also said the Gaspars made a "joint statement"

Idiot (that's Amaral).

[Eleanor]

I see.  So we are going to completely ignore the fact that The Gaspars themselves did not agree on anything much at all.

[ferryman]

I can describe Dave as a Caucasian male 1.78 m tall, and of a medium complexion. He had brown hair and used glasses/contact lenses depending on the circumstances.

I can say that Dave was a pleasant person. I do not remember him having any unusual characteristics.

During the holidays Dave never behaved in an inappropriate manner with Madeleine or with any of the other children. Dave was popular with the children and I took this to be because he was a close friend to the family.


I never distrusted Dave. After the holidays there was one occasion when we were with Kate and Gerry and Fiona and Dave were also present.

That was in a restaurant in Leicester in 2005. I do not remember the name of the restaurant.

We had a pleasant evening, just the three couples without the children.

I do not remember Dave having behaved inappropriately on this occasion. We have not spoken to Dave or Fiona since December 2005, only due to their being friends of Kate and Gerry, not for any other reason.

The last time I saw Kate, Gerry, Madeleine, Sean and Amelie was in March 2007 when they came to our house for the first birthday celebration of my daughter *****. On the morning of 4th May Katherine saw the news about Madeleine on television. We were very shocked and worried given that they were close friends.


It was during the days following the news of the abduction that we discovered that Fiona and David Payne were also with them in Portugal.

It was at this moment that Katherina showed concern at the gesture made by Dave in Majorca in 2005. Katherina remembered that when Dave made the gesture he was referring to Madeleine.

I only remember that Katherina saw the gesture at the time, I had forgotten the episode, it was never the subject of conversation.

At the time I did not feel the gesture was referring to Madeleine.

Aural Gaspar.

[Mr Gray]

Are you suggesting the Gaspers invented the story?   Amaral only repeated what the police were told by two witnesses who chose to come forward.

Do you consider the conduct acceptable or do you put it down to typical male stupidity while relaxing on holiday when the vino is flowing?  I hasten to add as a male that I found the observation somewhat sick so I can completely understand where Mrs Gasper was coming from.

Depends what they were talking about
I can't see they were discussing paedophilia
More likely breast feeding
Mr Gasper did not agree with his wife

[ferryman]

Are you suggesting the Gaspers invented the story?   Amaral only repeated what the police were told by two witnesses who chose to come forward.

....

Amaral did not (see above).

[Brietta]

Are you suggesting the Gaspers invented the story?   Amaral only repeated what the police were told by two witnesses who chose to come forward.

Do you consider the conduct acceptable or do you put it down to typical male stupidity while relaxing on holiday when the vino is flowing?  I hasten to add as a male that I found the observation somewhat sick so I can completely understand where Mrs Gasper was coming from.

We haven't actually had sight of the Gasper statements though, have we?  If you wish to go with the one Levy posted on the internet, that's fine.
I prefer the real deal which the police hold.

[Eleanor]

We haven't actually had sight of the Gasper statements though, have we?  If you wish to go with the one Levy posted on the internet, that's fine.
I prefer the real deal which the police hold.

God, not Levy again.  And twice translated.

[ferryman]

We haven't actually had sight of the Gasper statements though, have we?  If you wish to go with the one Levy posted on the internet, that's fine.
I prefer the real deal which the police hold.

At the foot of Mrs Gaspar's statement is this:

Translation [PJ] done by C.R.F.E.

Note: Retroversion from the Portuguese translation

Not sure what that means?

[Mr Gray]

Amaral must know that the cadaver alerts have no evidential value .........we are not allowed to discuss why he uses them as though they do