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Offline slartibartfast

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2017, 10:04:06 PM »
A simple question for members.  If you put your children to bed for the night and later when you go to check on them you aren't happy with the situation, what is the very first thing you would do?

Answers?


ps  its not a trick question, I will add replies to my op.


1. Open the door and go into the bedroom.
2. Satisfy yourself that what ever made you feel uneasy is not there.

I think it would depend on your degree of unhappiness vs your desire to be elsewhere.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2017, 10:09:10 PM »
A simple question for members.  If you put your children to bed for the night and later when you go to check on them you aren't happy with the situation, what is the very first thing you would do?

Answers?


ps  its not a trick question, I will add replies to my op.


1. Open the door and go into the bedroom.
2. Satisfy yourself that what ever made you feel uneasy is not there.
What I notice about Gerry is he changes over time.  You can't identify what he thought at the time but a later date he will attach more importance to what he saw at the time, but it didn't click then but it does later. 

So the question is first to identify what he thought at the time.
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Offline John

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2017, 02:01:59 AM »
What I notice about Gerry is he changes over time.  You can't identify what he thought at the time but a later date he will attach more importance to what he saw at the time, but it didn't click then but it does later. 

So the question is first to identify what he thought at the time.

Yes, I note you picked up on that previiously Robby.  Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
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Offline John

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2017, 02:12:22 AM »
A simple question for members.  If you put your children to bed for the night and later when you go to check on them you aren't happy with the situation, what is the very first thing you would do?

Answers?


ps  its not a trick question, I will add replies to my op.


1. Open the door and go into the bedroom.
2. Go over to each cot and bed and check the child.
3. Satisfy yourself that what ever made you feel uneasy is not there.



Ah!  I think I can see where this is leading now but I won't spoil it by revealing the missing element.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2017, 11:55:40 AM by John »
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2017, 05:06:18 AM »
Open the door and go into the room.
Open the door and go into the room. Turn the light on, wake them up and ask them difficult questions. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2017, 08:54:41 AM »
I don't know if this is what is being referred to but I assume it is;

he noted that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought strange....
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

Kate says;

in England Madeleine sometimes woke up during the night, around 2 ' 2:30 AM and went to her parents.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

If any of the children had been liable to wake up early evening then it wouldn't have made sense to go to dinner and leave the children alone, would it? Even so, it's Gerry's first thought after noticing the open door;

having then put together the thought of MADELEINE having got up to go to sleep in his bedroom so as to avoid the noise produced [created] by her siblings.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

He checks all three and all three are sleeping peacefully. So it seems it wasn't Madeleine who opened the door, so how did it move? Gerry, like his daughter, 'moves on'. He asks a question, fails to get an answer and drops the subject. He visits the bathroom and leaves the apartment. The strange case of the moving door is forgotten, it seems.

Having brought up three children my thought would have been that Madeleine had visited the bathroom. My children did that and scampered back to bed afterwards. We haven't been told whether she ever did that, and her father doesn't seem to consider that possibility.

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Offline Lace

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2017, 11:16:16 AM »
I don't know if this is what is being referred to but I assume it is;

he noted that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought strange....
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

Kate says;

in England Madeleine sometimes woke up during the night, around 2 ' 2:30 AM and went to her parents.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

If any of the children had been liable to wake up early evening then it wouldn't have made sense to go to dinner and leave the children alone, would it? Even so, it's Gerry's first thought after noticing the open door;

having then put together the thought of MADELEINE having got up to go to sleep in his bedroom so as to avoid the noise produced [created] by her siblings.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

He checks all three and all three are sleeping peacefully. So it seems it wasn't Madeleine who opened the door, so how did it move? Gerry, like his daughter, 'moves on'. He asks a question, fails to get an answer and drops the subject. He visits the bathroom and leaves the apartment. The strange case of the moving door is forgotten, it seems.

Having brought up three children my thought would have been that Madeleine had visited the bathroom. My children did that and scampered back to bed afterwards. We haven't been told whether she ever did that, and her father doesn't seem to consider that possibility.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Gerry also say that Madeleine could have got up to use the bathroom?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2017, 11:43:37 AM »
So far the sceptics would do something positive but the supporters would merely ask questions ?
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Offline John

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2017, 11:56:34 AM »
Open the door and go into the room. Turn the light on, wake them up and ask them difficult questions.

BINGO!!  Turn the light on!

A dark room yet not once did the parents turn the light on?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2017, 08:54:43 PM by John »
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2017, 12:00:10 PM »
BINGO!!  Turn the light on!

A dark room yet not once did the parents turn the light on?
But remember in the Emma Loach documentary where he demonstrates his check he did turn the light on.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2017, 02:57:15 PM »
Everything else was normal, the blinds, curtains and windows closed, very dark, there only being the light that came from the lounge.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2017, 03:14:52 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Gerry also say that Madeleine could have got up to use the bathroom?

I have no cite for that, do you?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2017, 03:16:08 PM »
So far the sceptics would do something positive but the supporters would merely ask questions ?

Nothing new there then. Rob contributes.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2017, 03:18:17 PM »
BINGO!!  Turn the light on!

A dark room yet not once did the parents turn the light on?

I wouldn't turn the light on in case I woke them. Unless the room was pitch black you would be able to see their shapes in bed.
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Offline misty

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2017, 04:42:46 PM »
I wouldn't turn the light on in case I woke them. Unless the room was pitch black you would be able to see their shapes in bed.

No, I also wouldn't have turned on the light for fear of waking one of them up unnecessarily & having to hang around until sure the child was properly asleep again.
The parents' concern was crying at that time, nothing more. No crying was reported during Gerry's check.