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Offline Angelo222

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2017, 10:32:26 AM »
I think the beds were divans so there was no space underneath. Amaral makes that point in the latest video (26.11).



Madeleine McCann's bed.  Would a cat even get under that bed???
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stephen25000

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Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2017, 10:35:40 AM »


Madeleine McCann's bed.  Would a cat even get under that bed???

Perhaps they thought an 'abductor' was hiding there. 8)-)))

Offline Erngath

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2017, 10:36:22 AM »
Yet they claimed abduction as they were searching  the apartment.

Now if she had been abducted, there was no point searching the apartment, was there.


Eh??
And if they hadn't searched the apartment what would you be saying?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2017, 10:36:31 AM »
Yet they claimed abduction as they were searching  the apartment.

Now if she had been abducted, there was no point searching the apartment, was there.

I've always found that contradictory.  If you find your child gone, the shutter raised and the window open why look under beds and in cupboards?  Wouldn't you rush outside the front door and search the car park and adjacent road first?
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Offline Erngath

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2017, 10:38:12 AM »


Madeleine McCann's bed.  Would a cat even get under that bed???

A cat could most certainly get under that bed and it would not be impossible for a small child to be under there. imo
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Offline Angelo222

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #65 on: June 03, 2017, 10:39:09 AM »
Perhaps they thought an 'abductor' was hiding there. 8)-)))

A cat burglar?   @)(++(*     One that is so nimble he can shimmy in and out of a window without leaving any trace.
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stephen25000

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Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2017, 10:46:35 AM »
I've always found that contradictory.  If you find your child gone, the shutter raised and the window open why look under beds and in cupboards?  Wouldn't you rush outside the front door and search the car park and adjacent road first?

Exactly Angelo, their actions make no sense.

stephen25000

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Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2017, 10:48:17 AM »
A cat burglar?   @)(++(*     One that is so nimble he can shimmy in and out of a window without leaving any trace.

Nice one. @)(++(*


Offline Benice

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2017, 10:57:14 AM »
Yet they claimed abduction as they were searching  the apartment.

Now if she had been abducted, there was no point searching the apartment, was there.

It would have been completely unnatural not to search the apartment - and probably several times over. 

In those first moments, even if you knew in your heart your child had been abducted, you would still be desperately hoping you were wrong and searching every nook and cranny.

People in a state of panic do not think logically.

AIMHO




The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2017, 11:06:22 AM »
It would have been completely unnatural not to search the apartment - and probably several times over. 

In those first moments, even if you knew in your heart your child had been abducted, you would still be desperately hoping you were wrong and searching every nook and cranny.

People in a state of panic do not think logically.

AIMHO

Claiming abduction and then searching at the same time, are mutually exclusive events.

The searching comes first, not the claim of abduction.


Offline Angelo222

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #70 on: June 03, 2017, 11:06:54 AM »
It would have been completely unnatural not to search the apartment - and probably several times over. 

In those first moments, even if you knew in your heart your child had been abducted, you would still be desperately hoping you were wrong and searching every nook and cranny.

People in a state of panic do not think logically.

AIMHO

And add a few bottles of wine to the equation which might explain the memory loss.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #71 on: June 03, 2017, 11:09:06 AM »
Claiming abduction and then searching at the same time, are mutually exclusive events.

The searching comes first, not the claim of abduction.

According to the record Kate came out shouting "She's gone...Madeleine's gone!!" as in walked off?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #72 on: June 03, 2017, 11:11:10 AM »
IIRC one of the first GNR officers to arrive also claimed he looked under the beds.

IMO it would be a natural thing to do - it's not always clear that a bed is a divan bed if bedclothing covers the sides and even if you did know then it's not unusual for people in a panic to double check or look in the most unlikeliest of places.   It's human nature IMO.

Do you have a cite for that please?
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Offline Benice

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #73 on: June 03, 2017, 11:16:57 AM »
Do you have a cite for that please?
And add a few bottles of wine to the equation which might explain the memory loss.

You can have no idea how much wine was consumed in just one hour and during a three course meal unless you can say how much wine was left in glasses and in wine bottles when everyone left the table.

Not a single person who was there including the police - has ever suggested that anyone was inebriated.  That should tell you something.
AIMHO

Not at the moment Ga - visitors are imminent.

IIRC it was stated in one of the GNR's witness statements.     Will try to find it later.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Re: A question of common sense?
« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2017, 11:20:36 AM »
It would have been completely unnatural not to search the apartment - and probably several times over. 

In those first moments, even if you knew in your heart your child had been abducted, you would still be desperately hoping you were wrong and searching every nook and cranny.

People in a state of panic do not think logically.

AIMHO

I don't know why you think everyone loses it in an emergency, unless you've watched too many films;

"Disaster films convey completely the wrong view of how most people behave in these kind of situations," he says. "Hollywood shows people panicking, but my research shows that 9.9 times out of 10, people don't turn into crazed individuals, but behave quite rationally.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/mar/16/disaster-planning-research
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