A question of common sense?

[Eleanor]

I beg your pardon? I am trying to understand why questioning the McCann's actions is being described as 'questioning the morality of the McCann's actions'. I don't even know what that means. Are all our actions moral actions or just some of them? Who defines 'moral' and what is the definition? Perhaps you can enlighten me?

The morals of other people are not my business.  And nor should they be yours.

[Alice Purjorick]

Of course we have the right
Why ever not

It is the whole concept that becomes trivial.
I have a persona on here; what my persona posts may not be a true reflection of what I really believe. We are after all only here for debate. In debating societies I belonged to in my younger day we were told what we would be  debating from what aspect. ie were we the house or the opposition to the house.
You have a persona on here ditto.
So your persona judges my persona for its morality.
Yeah right Nobby riiiight.

"Think about it" Jerry Lee "The KIller" Lewis.

[G-Unit]

The morals of other people are not my business.  And nor should they be yours.

I completely agree. My morals and my relationship with my conscience are my business and no-one else's. That's why I would appreciate it if people kept their moral judgements of other posters out of debates.

[Brietta]

It is the whole concept that becomes trivial.
I have a persona on here; what my persona posts may not be a true reflection of what I really believe. We are after all only here for debate. In debating societies I belonged to in my younger day we were told what we would be  debating from what aspect. ie were we the house or the opposition to the house.
You have a persona on here ditto.
So your persona judges my persona for its morality.
Yeah right Nobby riiiight.

"Think about it" Jerry Lee "The KIller" Lewis.

I have always been able to debate from whatever platform having done so from my formative years, as you have, it is good training.

My Brietta persona says nothing ... absolutely nothing ... which I would not say.  Nor does my Brietta persona believe anything that differs from my core beliefs in truth, fairness and justice.

People's lives are far too important to be used as debating points, in my opinion.

[G-Unit]

I have always been able to debate from whatever platform having done so from my formative years, as you have, it is good training.

My Brietta persona says nothing ... absolutely nothing ... which I would not say.  Nor does my Brietta persona believe anything that differs from my core beliefs in truth, fairness and justice.

People's lives are far too important to be used as debating points, in my opinion.

I come here to debate what evidence exists in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. The points I make are based on publicly available information. I have no interest in the private lives or moral integrity of any of the people involved. I have no interest either in the private lives or moral integrity of any who post here.

[Brietta]

I come here to debate what evidence exists in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. The points I make are based on publicly available information. I have no interest in the private lives or moral integrity of any of the people involved. I have no interest either in the private lives or moral integrity of any who post here.

Perhaps much of the publicly available information on which you set store, by its very nature impugns the morality, the integrity and the innocence of those with the closest involvement to Madeleine and her case.
In my opinion leafleting named individuals' neighbours and home village constitutes an invasion into their private lives, as does the misinformation put into the public domain by those, who share your passion for debate, but whose views you do not necessarily share.

Maidstone mum, Debbie Butler, in justice campaign for Madeleine McCann

 

[G-Unit]

Perhaps much of the publicly available information on which you set store, by its very nature impugns the morality, the integrity and the innocence of those with the closest involvement to Madeleine and her case.
In my opinion leafleting named individuals' neighbours and home village constitutes an invasion into their private lives, as does the misinformation put into the public domain by those, who share your passion for debate, but whose views you do not necessarily share.

Maidstone mum, Debbie Butler, in justice campaign for Madeleine McCann

Perhaps it's a matter of opinion which information 'by it's very nature impugns the morality, the integrity and the innocence of those with the closest involvement to Madeleine and her case'? 

In my opinion some of the information in media articles contains untruths and misinformation about the case.

It's up to each person to decide which information is valid and useful and which is not,

I am not involved in or responsible for the actions of other people. What they have done or choose to do in future is nothing to do with me or this forum as far as I know.

I'm posting about my actions and my conscience, no-one else's. 

[Alice Purjorick]

I have always been able to debate from whatever platform having done so from my formative years, as you have, it is good training.

My Brietta persona says nothing ... absolutely nothing ... which I would not say.  Nor does my Brietta persona believe anything that differs from my core beliefs in truth, fairness and justice.

People's lives are far too important to be used as debating points, in my opinion.

With that riposte any need for historical studies has been wiped out. One less for the curriculum 

[Brietta]

With that riposte any need for historical studies has been wiped out. One less for the curriculum 

Indeed ... and is not all just a matter of common sense when it boils down to it?

[Brietta]

Perhaps it's a matter of opinion which information 'by it's very nature impugns the morality, the integrity and the innocence of those with the closest involvement to Madeleine and her case'? 

In my opinion some of the information in media articles contains untruths and misinformation about the case.

It's up to each person to decide which information is valid and useful and which is not,

I am not involved in or responsible for the actions of other people. What they have done or choose to do in future is nothing to do with me or this forum as far as I know.

I'm posting about my actions and my conscience, no-one else's.

Sometimes it really is necessary to add a great dollop of common sense into the mix to balance out precisely what it is that editors and proprietors have decided should be the agenda.
The protection there lies within the libel laws of this country.

The example I have given you and the source from which it emanates has in my opinion prosecuted its dislike of the McCann family with quasi religious zeal.  Why would such an aberration not be up for discussion on this forum?

I post here because members of differing viewpoints are welcomed and enabled to do so and mainly because a value is given to the concept of justice. 
At no time did I suggest you are lumped in with anyone and I think it borders on disingenuous that you feel the need to deny association which was never intended or implied.

[G-Unit]

Sometimes it really is necessary to add a great dollop of common sense into the mix to balance out precisely what it is that editors and proprietors have decided should be the agenda.
The protection there lies within the libel laws of this country.

The example I have given you and the source from which it emanates has in my opinion prosecuted its dislike of the McCann family with quasi religious zeal.  Why would such an aberration not be up for discussion on this forum?

I post here because members of differing viewpoints are welcomed and enabled to do so and mainly because a value is given to the concept of justice. 
At no time did I suggest you are lumped in with anyone and I think it borders on disingenuous that you feel the need to deny association which was never intended or implied.

Thank you. Our positions are now clear. Justice is a fairly wide concept, of course. It can refer to the law and Judiciary or it can refer to personal behaviour and treatment of others. The legal concept of justice relies on laws and procedures. Personal behaviour is more likely to stem from personal beliefs and standards.

[Innominate]

That was not a reconstruction, it was a series of disjointed incidents. The conditions inside the apartment on 3rd May
were not replicated. The Tannerman sighting wasn't done at the same time as it happened; it was far too dark imo.

My common sense tells me that no parent turns a light on when checking their children. Not if they want to finish their meal, that is.

There is support for this viewpoint from the book Madeleine.

Quote (page 71/72 from Google books):

'It seems so daft now, but I didn't switch on the light straight away. Force of habit, I suppose: taking care to avoid waking the children at all costs'