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Offline Mr Gray

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2017, 12:41:25 PM »
Leaving three children under four years-of-age alone in an unlocked apartment was the epitome of stupidity.  As stated previously, some people leave their common sense at passport control when they go abroad.
I agree with you John
It just didn't seem stupid to them at the time
People do stupid things
Children sitting on laps in cars
Most get away with doing stupid things
The McCanns were very unlucky

Offline G-Unit

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2017, 01:00:24 PM »
In one scenario the parents can be blamed for leaving the children.  In the other they cannot.

PS.  Children have been abducted while their parents were asleep.  Many times, as it happens.

According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children it's exceptionally rare.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865558906/Child-abductions-from-homes-exceptionally-rare-expert-says.html
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Offline Eleanor

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2017, 01:07:05 PM »

According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children it's exceptionally rare.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865558906/Child-abductions-from-homes-exceptionally-rare-expert-says.html

I can think of three off the top of my head.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2017, 01:11:13 PM »
According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children it's exceptionally rare.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865558906/Child-abductions-from-homes-exceptionally-rare-expert-says.html

Stranger abduction is extremely rare
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Offline John

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2017, 01:46:15 PM »
It might not have been very sensible, but hardly the best scenario to fake an abduction.

I totally agree. It is an altogether puzzling mystery but we have to be guided by the clues as exist.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sadie

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2017, 01:52:21 PM »
Leaving three children under four years-of-age alone in an unlocked apartment was the epitome of stupidity.  As stated previously, some people leave their common sense at passport control when they go abroad.
The only entrance that the Mccanns were aware of, which was unlocked was the patio door .. and that was illuminated from the street light opposite and was overlooked by the tapas friends in the restaurant which was 50 metres away .... and was effectively the main rear garden to block 5

Even Amaral said that no perp. would go in by that route because it was lit, too close and in view of the group /parents.

As Brits unused to roller shutters, The Mccanns thought that if the shutter was down, then from the ouitside it was impossible to open it.  That was patently wrong

We dont know if the bedroom window was left unlatched, or not.  It might have been unlatched by a perp from inside, or outside. 

AIMO


You know John, in innocence people can be stupid, which they realise afterwards.  I well remember that someone on here once bragged about how they never had any crying problems with  their babies cos they took them into bed with them all night if they cried.   That is a NO NO in  baby rearing circles.

How lucky they were that their babies were not smothered in the night.


Hindsight is wonderful. 

We all make mistakes but are lucky and not criticized for ever after.



We ALL make mistakes but thank Gaod we are not criticized and destroyed for the rest of our lives

Offline John

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2017, 02:23:39 PM »
The only entrance that the Mccanns were aware of, which was unlocked was the patio door .. and that was illuminated from the street light opposite and was overlooked by the tapas friends in the restaurant which was 50 metres away .... and was effectively the main rear garden to block 5

Even Amaral said that no perp. would go in by that route because it was lit, too close and in view of the group /parents.

As Brits unused to roller shutters, The Mccanns thought that if the shutter was down, then from the ouitside it was impossible to open it.  That was patently wrong

We dont know if the bedroom window was left unlatched, or not.  It might have been unlatched by a perp from inside, or outside. 

AIMO


You know John, in innocence people can be stupid, which they realise afterwards.  I well remember that someone on here once bragged about how they never had any crying problems with  their babies cos they took them into bed with them all night if they cried.   That is a NO NO in  baby rearing circles.

How lucky they were that their babies were not smothered in the night.


Hindsight is wonderful. 

We all make mistakes but are lucky and not criticized for ever after.



We ALL make mistakes but thank Gaod we are not criticized and destroyed for the rest of our lives

Some interesting points there Sadie.  I must admit our sons mostly stayed in the parental bed when they were babies but then that was our choice and the natural way to do things. When away from home we would never have contemplated for a moment leaving young children alone and unattended in a strange hotel room or apartment.  Its a very selfish thing to do imo.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2017, 02:26:47 PM »
Some interesting points there Sadie.  I must admit our sons mostly stayed in the parental bed when they were babies but then that was our choice and the natural way to do things. When away from home we would never have contemplated for a moment leaving young children alone and unattended in a strange hotel room or apartment.  Its a very selfish thing to do imo.

Having babies in bed with parents can be quite dangerous

Offline G-Unit

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2017, 02:32:44 PM »
I agree with you John
It just didn't seem stupid to them at the time
People do stupid things
Children sitting on laps in cars
Most get away with doing stupid things
The McCanns were very unlucky

People in certain occupations (police, doctors and nurses for eg) know more about child protection than others do. They see, deal with and treat the results of parental inattention and carelessness all the time. They are trained in these matters.

I find it very difficult to believe that people in those professions leave all their training and experience at passport control as well as their common sense.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2017, 03:06:05 PM »
People in certain occupations (police, doctors and nurses for eg) know more about child protection than others do. They see, deal with and treat the results of parental inattention and carelessness all the time. They are trained in these matters.

I find it very difficult to believe that people in those professions leave all their training and experience at passport control as well as their common sense.

They thought it was safe
I've done it and I thought it was safe
Lots of people have done similar
As I have said people sit in cars with children on their lap
People sleep with babies in there bed
You just have to be the unlucky one

Offline Eleanor

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2017, 05:12:45 PM »
I totally agree. It is an altogether puzzling mystery but we have to be guided by the clues as exist.

No we don't.  We have to use our common sense and logic.  At least, I do.

Offline Eleanor

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2017, 05:14:07 PM »
Having babies in bed with parents can be quite dangerous

And not my idea of a sensible way to behave.

Offline Eleanor

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2017, 05:16:26 PM »
They thought it was safe
I've done it and I thought it was safe
Lots of people have done similar
As I have said people sit in cars with children on their lap
People sleep with babies in there bed
You just have to be the unlucky one

Tell me the next time a parent rolls over and suffocates a baby.  I would never have had a baby of mine in my bed.

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Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2017, 05:38:42 PM »
They thought it was safe
I've done it and I thought it was safe
Lots of people have done similar
As I have said people sit in cars with children on their lap
People sleep with babies in there bed
You just have to be the unlucky one

Isn't sitting a child on your lap in a car , whilst in motion or otherwise, a criminal offense ?

Offline Eleanor

Re: There were nets that wooshed and drapes on the window
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2017, 05:42:49 PM »
Isn't sitting a child on your lap in a car , whilst in motion or otherwise, a criminal offense ?

I think that is what Davel said.