Author Topic: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 950410 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #510 on: December 10, 2017, 09:45:42 PM »

I mistakenly thought that cites should be provided to back up assertions,my bad.Still its a useful reference point in future.
Ive just provided one...and again...please answer the question...do you really think no one has been successful in Euorope...the SC cited a case ..read the report...the mcdonalds case...and many more

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #511 on: December 10, 2017, 09:47:15 PM »
Doesnt matter if portugal ignore the ruling ...a ruling would show that the mccans were unfairly treated by the portuguese justice system

They haven't been treated unfairly. They took Amaral and the other defendents to court.

They were  poorly prepared and lost.

Some of the witness statements on their behalf, which were reported, were IMO, laughable.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #512 on: December 10, 2017, 09:47:59 PM »

I mistakenly thought that cites should be provided to back up assertions,my bad.Still its a useful reference point in future.

with respect its a bit like me posting the popes a catholic and you asking for  a cite

Offline barrier

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #513 on: December 10, 2017, 09:48:38 PM »
Ive just provided one...and again...please answer the question...do you really think no one has been successful in Euorope...the SC cited a case ..read the report...the mcdonalds case...and many more

You provided nothing.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #514 on: December 10, 2017, 09:48:45 PM »
I dont have messages I have the facts. Doesnt matter if portugal ignore the ruling ...a ruling would show that the mccans were unfairly treated by the portuguese justice system

I don't believe they were. 
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #515 on: December 10, 2017, 09:49:19 PM »
They haven't been treated unfairly. They took Amaral and the other defendents to court.

They were  poorly prepared and lost.

Some of the witness statements on their behalf, which were reported, were IMO, laughable.



your post is opinion as fact ...and reported...It is my opinion they ahve been traeted unfairly...The ECHR will hopefully decide
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stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #516 on: December 10, 2017, 09:51:04 PM »
your post is opinion as fact ...and reported...It is my opinion they ahve been traeted unfairly...The ECHR will hopefully decide

When was the case accepted?

Just a minor hurdle to overcome, followed by several years waiting for a hearing.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #517 on: December 10, 2017, 09:51:12 PM »
I don't believe they were.

Thats your opinion john as you have made clear...I think they were.. I think they were defamed...its up to the ECHR to decide...if as I beleive an application ghas been made

Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #518 on: December 10, 2017, 09:51:18 PM »
your post is opinion as fact ...and reported...It is my opinion they ahve been traeted unfairly...The ECHR will hopefully decide

Out of curiousity, how in your opinion were they unfairly treated?  Always remembering that Leicestershire Police were also involved.

The ECHR will not want to involve themselves in what is effectively a private spate or quarrel between the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2017, 09:54:48 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #519 on: December 10, 2017, 09:52:06 PM »
When was the case accepted?

Just a minor hurdle to overcome, followed by several years waiting for a hearing.

You need to read my posts as I have already addressed this point

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #520 on: December 10, 2017, 09:54:36 PM »
Out of curiousity, how in your opinion were they unfairly treated?  Always remembering that Leicestershire Police were also involved.

I would say they have clearly been defamed and their right to a good name hase been ignored

The Sc judgement has to balance the right to free speech against the right to a good name ..thay got it wrong imo...
and IMO that will be the basis of the case

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #521 on: December 10, 2017, 09:56:04 PM »
I would say they have clearly been defamed and their right to a good name hase been ignored

The Sc judgement has to balance the right to free speech against the right to a good name ..thay got it wrong imo...
and IMO that will be the basis of the case

They have quoted their grievances and views for years, in the court and in the press.

They lost.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #522 on: December 10, 2017, 09:56:07 PM »
You provided nothing.

i have provided several cases where the SC disagreed  with the ruling by the countries SC

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #523 on: December 10, 2017, 09:56:49 PM »
They have quoted their grievances and views for years, in the court and in the press.

They lost.

and now they have...as i understand ...appealed to the ECHR...where they may well win

Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #524 on: December 10, 2017, 09:58:23 PM »
I would say they have clearly been defamed and their right to a good name hase been ignored

The Sc judgement has to balance the right to free speech against the right to a good name ..thay got it wrong imo...
and IMO that will be the basis of the case

You appear to be confusing two separate issues.  The official investigation is a separate issue to the allegation that Amaral defamed them in his book.

Being treated fairly has nothing to do with Amaral.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.