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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #525 on: December 10, 2017, 09:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 09:42:42 PM
I dont have messages I have the facts. Doesnt matter if portugal ignore the ruling ...a ruling would show that the mccans were unfairly treated by the portuguese justice system

Which they have obsessively claimed since 3rd May 2007, but have been unable to prove. If the ECHR declines their request their allegations will remain simply a matter of opinion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #526 on: December 10, 2017, 09:59:00 PM »
Quote from: John on December 10, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
Out of curiousity, how in your opinion were they unfairly treated?  Always remembering that Leicestershire Police were also involved.

The ECHR will not want to involve themselves in what is effectively a private spate or quarrel between the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral.

The ECHR will have  agreat respect for EU law...and will want to rule if they think it has been ignored by a SC..imo
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #527 on: December 10, 2017, 10:00:11 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on December 10, 2017, 09:58:40 PM
Which they have obsessively claimed since 3rd May 2007, but have been unable to prove. If the ECHR declines their request their allegations will remain simply a matter of opinion.

They have been unable to prove in portugal..teh ECHR may be totally different...imo the SC ruling was perverse
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #528 on: December 10, 2017, 10:02:22 PM »
Quote from: John on December 10, 2017, 09:58:23 PM
You appear to be confusing two separate issues.  The official investigation is a separate issue to the allegation that Amaral defamed them in his book.

Being treated fairly has nothing to do with Amaral.

The case in the ECHR is nothing to do with amaral...the contention will be they have been unfairly treated by the SC..imo...Im confusing nothing
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Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #529 on: December 10, 2017, 10:02:37 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
The ECHR will have  agreat respect for EU law...and will want to rule if they think it has been ignored by a SC..imo

I guarantee that if the EHCR accept the case against Portugal they will want to examine Madeleine's human rights and how they were violated.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #530 on: December 10, 2017, 10:03:52 PM »
Quote from: John on December 10, 2017, 10:02:37 PM
I guarantee that if the EHCR accept the case against Portugal they will want to examine Madeleine's human rights and how they were violated.

IMO ..they will absolutely not...taht is not the way courts work..   imo
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Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #531 on: December 10, 2017, 10:04:02 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 10:02:22 PM
The case in the ECHR is nothing to do with amaral...the contention will be they have been unfairly treated by the SC..imo...Im confusing nothing

Which was my point initially, the defamation case is over.
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Offline John

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #532 on: December 10, 2017, 10:05:03 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 10:03:52 PM
IMO ..they will absolutely not...taht is not the way courts work..   imo

Really, you think they are going to ignore Madeleine?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #533 on: December 10, 2017, 10:05:57 PM »
Quote from: John on December 10, 2017, 10:05:03 PM
Really, you think they are going to ignore Madeleine?

I think they will deal with the point of law in question...nothing more..that is what courts do

I have knowlwdge of a case where someone was found guilty of defrauding a public body......the person in a seperate case sued the same body for breach of contract...he came to court in handcuffs...the judge ruled his fraud case had no bearing on the breach of contract and he won the case
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #534 on: December 10, 2017, 10:06:50 PM »
Quote from: John on December 10, 2017, 10:04:02 PM
Which was my point initially, the defamation case is over.

it isnt over in europe...but it is now a case against the SC...not amaral
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stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #535 on: December 10, 2017, 10:10:01 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 10:06:50 PM
it isnt over in europe...but it is now a case against the SC...not amaral

What  case?

It hasn't been accepted.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #536 on: December 10, 2017, 10:11:39 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 10, 2017, 10:10:01 PM
What  case?

It hasn't been accepted.

Again....... I have already addressed this point in a previous post this evening...please read back
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stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #537 on: December 10, 2017, 10:13:19 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 10:11:39 PM
Again....... I have already addressed this point in a previous post

Irrelevant.

It has to be accepted.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #538 on: December 10, 2017, 10:16:05 PM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on December 10, 2017, 10:13:19 PM
Irrelevant.

It has to be accepted.
As i have already stated I accept it has to be accepted but I have read the acceptance criteria,,,...have you...and see no reason why it will not be accepted...on what basis do you think it wont be acccepted...I have a feeling you have not looked at the criteria and do not have a valid opinion
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stephen25000

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Re: McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
« Reply #539 on: December 10, 2017, 10:20:17 PM »
Quote from: Davel on December 10, 2017, 10:16:05 PM
As i have already stated I accept it has to be accepted but I have read the acceptance criteria,,,...have you...and see no reason why it will not be accepted...on what basis do you think it wont be acccepted...I have a feeling you have not looked at the criteria and do not have a valid opinion

I have.

Their human rights have not been breached and they were not treated unfairly by the supreme Court.

They are on a hiding to nothing, which in my opinion is what they so fully deserve.
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