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Offline G-Unit

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #285 on: October 04, 2017, 10:22:47 AM »
Quote from: misty on October 04, 2017, 12:42:35 AM
Jane did not describe a shirt of any colour.
In my opinion, Crecheman is too tall & slim to be Tannerman. Observe the "derriere" definition on the Tannerman image compared to Crecheman.

Who did then?
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Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #286 on: October 04, 2017, 02:21:18 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on October 04, 2017, 10:22:47 AM
Who did then?

Looks like the ever-reliable Sun Newspaper
http://www.anorak.co.uk/177174/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-jane-tanners-efit-a-spanish-angel-and-wearing-pink-pyjamas.html/
THE SUN front page: “PICTURE SENSATION. He took Maddie – MAN SEEN BY McCANNS’ PAL ON FATEFUL NIGHT”

A drawing of a man. The caption: “Hunted…a drawing of man with child in his arms as seen by Jane Tanner”

Page 13: “MADDIE IN ARMS OF SNATCHER. Pyjamas ‘prove it is her’” – The man is 5ft 6. He is 5ft 10 in the Express. He is “slim”. The girl is wearing pink and white pyjamas. The man is in a maroon shirt, camel coloured trousers and black or brown shoes

Says Clarence Mitchell: “We hope this will go a long was to proving the independent eyewitness account that she was taken by someone and the police’s focus on Kate and Gerry as potential suspects is wrong”. See drawing of a man seen by McCanns’ friend

And: “We believe it does show Madeleine in his arms. The description of the pyjamas is accurate enough to believe that is the case.” The McCanns’ friend sees the girl wearing pyjamas like those worn by Madeleine, whom she knows

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If you are a member of Not Bennett's forum you may be able to access the full Sun article by Lazzeri over there, but I do not subscribe to it.
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Offline jassi

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #287 on: October 04, 2017, 03:03:49 PM »
Quote from: misty on October 04, 2017, 02:21:18 PM
Looks like the ever-reliable Sun Newspaper
http://www.anorak.co.uk/177174/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-jane-tanners-efit-a-spanish-angel-and-wearing-pink-pyjamas.html/
THE SUN front page: “PICTURE SENSATION. He took Maddie – MAN SEEN BY McCANNS’ PAL ON FATEFUL NIGHT”

A drawing of a man. The caption: “Hunted…a drawing of man with child in his arms as seen by Jane Tanner”

Page 13: “MADDIE IN ARMS OF SNATCHER. Pyjamas ‘prove it is her’” – The man is 5ft 6. He is 5ft 10 in the Express. He is “slim”. The girl is wearing pink and white pyjamas. The man is in a maroon shirt, camel coloured trousers and black or brown shoes

Says Clarence Mitchell: “We hope this will go a long was to proving the independent eyewitness account that she was taken by someone and the police’s focus on Kate and Gerry as potential suspects is wrong”. See drawing of a man seen by McCanns’ friend

And: “We believe it does show Madeleine in his arms. The description of the pyjamas is accurate enough to believe that is the case.” The McCanns’ friend sees the girl wearing pyjamas like those worn by Madeleine, whom she knows

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If you are a member of Not Bennett's forum you may be able to access the full Sun article by Lazzeri over there, but I do not subscribe to it.

I know the Anorak article is from 10 years ago, but the comments make for interesting reading, even now.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #288 on: January 21, 2018, 01:18:50 PM »
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Detectives from Operation Grange have the "Final Report". Some say it served as a roadmap for the investigation. One question though: which edition of the report did Op Grange receive and did they receive the draft editions also? #Halligen #McCann #OperationOmega
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #289 on: January 21, 2018, 01:21:56 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on January 21, 2018, 01:18:50 PM
Adrian Gatton
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Detectives from Operation Grange have the "Final Report". Some say it served as a roadmap for the investigation. One question though: which edition of the report did Op Grange receive and did they receive the draft editions also? #Halligen #McCann #OperationOmega

Are they going to publish findings based on this unknown version of the report? where did you read this Pathy?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #290 on: January 21, 2018, 01:27:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/AdrianGatton/

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Hope that provides a bit of clarity. Halligen did the deal through his company, got paid through his company, but others did the serious work. In short: Halligen was a "conman" who took that money, but the work WAS done (eg see the Smith efits adopted by Op Grange).

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #291 on: January 21, 2018, 02:51:06 PM »
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Meanwhile Halligen undermined the real op by spending the money paid to find Madeleine on his 'high roller' lifestyle, eg he didn't pay the team doing the real on-the-ground ops to find Madeleine, the ex-MI5 A4 surveillance team ... (emphasis: EX-MI5)


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But Halligen was not in charge of the investigation to find Madeleine McCann. Henri Exton was in charge and his own team did 'collection' (gathering intel), witness and source interviews, analysis, tasking, targeting, surveillance, covert, efits, report writing, etc ...

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #292 on: January 21, 2018, 03:26:44 PM »
Do you think the Express might publish the report or at least selected highlight?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #293 on: January 21, 2018, 07:17:07 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 21, 2018, 03:26:44 PM
Do you think the Express might publish the report or at least selected highlight?

We know that Exton thought Jane's sighting had little credibility and advised the Fund to concentrate on Smithman, an opinion OG seem to have followed. We were also told that the Final Oakley report was scathing of the McCanns. It will be interesting what OG make of that opinion.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #294 on: January 21, 2018, 07:22:07 PM »
Yes, but it would be even better to be able to read it for ourselves   ?{)(**
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #295 on: January 21, 2018, 07:33:34 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 21, 2018, 07:22:07 PM
Yes, but it would be even better to be able to read it for ourselves   ?{)(**

You never know Jassi  8(0(*
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?
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