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Offline jassi

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #135 on: September 26, 2017, 08:52:54 PM »
Could the PJ have filed them in the round bin?

Have you anything to support that idea, other than your imagination?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #136 on: September 26, 2017, 08:53:00 PM »
Could the PJ have filed them in the round bin?

Why?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #137 on: September 26, 2017, 08:55:12 PM »
Maybe LP acted as the PJ are usually accused of and just decided it wasn’t important and filed it.

What - over 500 of them? Seriously?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #138 on: September 26, 2017, 09:03:29 PM »
What - over 500 of them? Seriously?

Why is it hard to file over 500 questionaires?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #139 on: September 26, 2017, 09:07:54 PM »
HOLMES.

If it was in Holmes how could Amaral have hidden it ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #140 on: September 26, 2017, 09:09:53 PM »
Why is it hard to file over 500 questionaires?

I cannot believe we are having this discussion when the PJ went to such pains to question locals & search so many places in the days following Madeleine's disappearance.

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #141 on: September 26, 2017, 09:13:13 PM »
If it was in Holmes how could Amaral have hidden it ?

The UK had a copy, the PJ had another copy. If someone sends you a copy of an important document & you destroy it does that mean it no longer exists or just that you don't have a copy?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #142 on: September 26, 2017, 09:17:28 PM »
There would have been the paper copy completed by Crecheman, recorded by LP & put onto HOLMES & then it would have been sent to the PJ in some format - otherwise, why bother with questionnaires if the Lead Investigators would never see them?

The questionnaires were devised and sent out by LP. There is no evidence that the PJ asked them to do that or knew that they'd done it. It could have been done as part of the UK police's routine in such cases.

It's a fact that LP officers had access to them. There is no evidence that the PJ did.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htmormation.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_MOBILE.htm
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #143 on: September 26, 2017, 09:20:37 PM »
The UK had a copy, the PJ had another copy. If someone sends you a copy of an important document & you destroy it does that mean it no longer exists or just that you don't have a copy?

But it wasn't an important document. Crecheman saw nothing and he was one of several adults I presume,  carrying their children home from the crèche. I very much doubt Amaral even read it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #144 on: September 26, 2017, 09:22:39 PM »
The questionnaires were devised and sent out by LP. There is no evidence that the PJ asked them to do that or knew that they'd done it. It could have been done as part of the UK police's routine in such cases.

It's a fact that LP officers had access to them. There is no evidence that the PJ did.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htmormation.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_MOBILE.htm

Would you rather the Portuguese police had to send a very lengthy ILOR to the UK to obtain statements from all the holidaymakers in Luz on 3/5/07?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #145 on: September 26, 2017, 09:35:42 PM »
Would you rather the Portuguese police had to send a very lengthy ILOR to the UK to obtain statements from all the holidaymakers in Luz on 3/5/07?

Do you have any evidence that the PJ wanted statements from all those holidaymakers?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #146 on: September 26, 2017, 09:36:43 PM »
Would you rather the Portuguese police had to send a very lengthy ILOR to the UK to obtain statements from all the holidaymakers in Luz on 3/5/07?

What difference does G-Unit's opinion make ? We are discussing what actually happened.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #147 on: September 26, 2017, 09:46:17 PM »
The UK had a copy, the PJ had another copy. If someone sends you a copy of an important document & you destroy it does that mean it no longer exists or just that you don't have a copy?

In your opinion
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Offline John

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #148 on: September 26, 2017, 09:58:41 PM »
A reminder to all posters that sniping and goading is unacceptable just in case anyone has forgotten.   
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #149 on: September 26, 2017, 10:07:35 PM »
Putting oneself in the shoes of the police for a moment, Jane Tanner reported seeing a man carrying a child in a direction which was not consistent with someone returning from the night creche. That alone would appear to rule out those parents who had collected their child from the creche and went straight back to their apartment.  It was never explained by Redwood why Crecheman was walking in the direction he claimed to be going, question is why?  It is bizarre to suggest that a parent would carry a scantily clad youngster around the streets on a cold windy night just for the hell of it.

In my view the Portuguese police rightly disregarded parents returning from the creche since none of them would have been walking from west to east along the street bordering the north side of block 5.

Any thoughts?
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.