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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #165 on: September 27, 2017, 12:06:05 AM »
So how do you investigate a sighting from the testimony of an unreliable witness?

So does Martin Smith still think who he saw was Gerry or not ?
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Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #166 on: September 27, 2017, 12:12:21 AM »
So does Martin Smith still think who he saw was Gerry or not ?

I have absolutely no idea what he thinks, only what he reportedly said.

Offline John

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #167 on: September 27, 2017, 12:17:02 AM »
So how do you investigate a sighting from the testimony of an unreliable witness?

Speaking of unreliable witnesses, can we believe anything Gerry McCann stated as occurring on the night Madeleine disappeared given he failed to relate correctly which door he used to enter the apartment and a short time later forgot on which side of the street he encountered Jez Wilkins?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #168 on: September 27, 2017, 12:29:19 AM »
Speaking of unreliable witnesses, can we believe anything Gerry McCann stated as occurring on the night Madeleine disappeared given he failed to relate correctly which door he used to enter the apartment and a short time later forgot on which side of the street he encountered Jez Wilkins?

Short answer, no.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #169 on: September 27, 2017, 12:29:50 AM »
Speaking of unreliable witnesses, can we believe anything Gerry McCann stated as occurring on the night Madeleine disappeared given he failed to relate correctly which door he used to enter the apartment and a short time later forgot on which side of the street he encountered Jez Wilkins?

IMO the door issue was an interpretation error & the Wilkins conversation is only important as an alibi for the lengthy time he was away from the dining table. Men aren't exactly renowned for good memories when it comes to trivialities........

Offline faithlilly

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #170 on: September 27, 2017, 12:44:58 AM »
IMO the door issue was an interpretation error & the Wilkins conversation is only important as an alibi for the lengthy time he was away from the dining table. Men aren't exactly renowned for good memories when it comes to trivialities........

Gerry admitted within the body of his statement that he had made a mistake in his previous one with regard to the door so I can't see how it is a translation error and I think we all know Gerry's description of his chat with Jez is far more important than you are admitting.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #171 on: September 27, 2017, 12:49:26 AM »
Gerry admitted within the body of his statement that he had made a mistake in his previous one with regard to the door so I can't see how it is a translation error and I think we all know Gerry's description of his chat with Jez is far more important than you are admitting.

Getting back to the Smith family sighting, why did Amaral take no action for 4 months despite deciding it was far more credible than Jane's sighting?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #172 on: September 27, 2017, 04:25:56 AM »
Getting back to the Smith family sighting, why did Amaral take no action for 4 months despite deciding it was far more credible than Jane's sighting?
And then to blame inaction on his successor seems a bit too much.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #173 on: September 27, 2017, 06:49:40 AM »
Isn't that exactly what the coordinator of the investigation did when he changed Jane's sighting to suit his own hypothesis - and many people believe in his hypothesis? Why do you think he changed the direction of Tannerman's travel when Tannerman could have taken a long detour before ending up on Rua 1 de Maio?

The way I read it he didn't change the direction of Tannerman, he thought he was a red herring. Jane's sighting suggested an abductor walking East at 9.15 whereas the man carrying Madeleine walked West at a later time. A 'look over there, not over here' distraction.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #174 on: September 27, 2017, 07:42:15 AM »
Getting back to the Smith family sighting, why did Amaral take no action for 4 months despite deciding it was far more credible than Jane's sighting?

What do you think he should have done?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #175 on: September 27, 2017, 07:10:07 PM »
So how do you investigate a sighting from the testimony of an unreliable witness?

Smithman is the unreliable witness and his TIME is coming.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #176 on: September 27, 2017, 07:43:51 PM »
Smithman is the unreliable witness and his TIME is coming.
There is not much time left.
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Offline jassi

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #177 on: September 27, 2017, 07:57:22 PM »
Who knows how long the PJ investigation will continue even though  OG may close at the end of the month
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #178 on: September 27, 2017, 10:39:37 PM »
IMO the door issue was an interpretation error & the Wilkins conversation is only important as an alibi for the lengthy time he was away from the dining table. Men aren't exactly renowned for good memories when it comes to trivialities........

Having a good memory has no bearing on telling the truth. You do need a damn great memory if telling lies, especially a string of them- If you were standing under a lamp you will recall standing under a lamp and not a maybe err um  yeah you know... a tree. The statements are so vague with very little PERTINANT detail it really does not sound like a record of what did happen as it happened in my opinion.

I believe the Smiths recalled what they actually did see. I also believe them when they said it wasn't Murat because they knew him.

Strange how something can stay in a strangers mind but the Tapas struggle...

Gerry claimed to know EXACTLY where the table was when they were siting in the tapas bar that night- he demonstrated this by waving his hands saying " it was somewhere about here"  oh go on Ger be a love, and stop making claims you can't deliver on. He  also had an [b']emphatic No'[/b], not just an ordinary No .why would that be?  Why is it so difficult for them to recall things or over state unimportant things?
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Offline misty

Re: The investigation into the Smith family's sighting
« Reply #179 on: September 28, 2017, 04:22:15 PM »
What do you think he should have done?

Amaral could have started where Rebelo did - the Smith family timeline,  the CCTV at Estela da Luz, asking reception staff at the hotel if they remembered seeing the Smith family return & at what time.
He could also have told the McCanns that there was another potential suspect but they had to find out through the Irish press 2 weeks later. Why did Amaral want to keep it secret - what was so important about the Smith sighting that it could be neither disclosed nor investigated?