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Alfie

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2190 on: October 10, 2016, 09:29:41 AM »
Well, perhaps you should advise sites such as 'stop the myths', '.....2' and he rest on that.

Allegedly , those sites are filled with such material.
You reckon?  I think the good folk on #McCann on tw..ter have a bit more to worry about than those guys.

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2191 on: October 10, 2016, 10:23:21 AM »
You reckon?  I think the good folk on #McCann on tw..ter have a bit more to worry about than those guys.

I agree, that on both sides, on twitter, there are fruitcakes, no doubt about it.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2192 on: October 10, 2016, 12:29:35 PM »
Interesting....

"Internet trolls who create derogatory hashtags or post doctored images to humiliate others could face prosecution in England and Wales" - BBC News.

The internet is like the wild west where the bandits were let loose and law and order had a tough time catching up ... if it ever did.

It is way past time that something was done to control the sheer nastiness targeting ordinary people and children  which has been bad enough to cause irreversible harm, as self regulation is never going to happen.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2193 on: October 10, 2016, 11:54:17 PM »
Police deal with threats to life and property, and stalking, not net spats and disagreements


Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2194 on: October 11, 2016, 12:51:58 AM »
Police deal with threats to life and property, and stalking, not net spats and disagreements

I think you may be wrong on that one.  The police uphold the law and the law appears to be considering this as more of a problem than you apparently do and might at long last be going to do something more about it.


Internet trolls targeted with new legal guidelines

Internet trolls who create derogatory hashtags or doctored images to humiliate others could face prosecution in England and Wales.

Inciting people to harass others online, known as virtual mobbing, could also result in court action, under new Crown Prosecution Service guidance.

The director of public prosecutions said it means the CPS would prosecute just as if offences occurred offline.

But she stressed this did not mean prosecutors could "stifle free speech".

The new guidance aims to help police identify online crimes more easily.

It also highlights those who post people's personal information, such as bank details - known as doxxing.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders said: "The internet's not an anonymous place where people can post without any consequences. People should think about their own conduct.

"If you are grossly abusive to people, if you are bullying or harassing people online, then we will prosecute in the same way as if you did it offline."

However, Ms Saunders said context will be an important factor in decisions - for example "if you're offensive, the legislation would say you have to be grossly offensive, and that's quite a high test".

'Hateful names'

One woman, who wished to remain anonymous, said she and her daughter, who has Down's Syndrome, had suffered such severe online abuse over the last six years that they had to move house three times.

The abuse started, she said, when a friend wrote a book about trolls - anonymously but mentioning her by name.

"The trolls photoshopped images of myself and my daughter on to pornography and posted it on Facebook. They have said I'm a paedophile and called her hateful names like mongoloid; they even set up a website in her name."

The woman believes the trolls kept getting hold of her details using official forms she submitted when complaining at the use of images of her daughter.

"Even after we moved, they have called us at three of four in the morning threatening to petrol-bomb our house if we will not give up the name of the author.

"It's been horrific - this trolling is not free speech; it's hate speech," she said.

She added that one of the men stood outside the family home and followed her daughter to school, taking pictures.
The incidents are now being investigated by police.

'No escape from it'

Kevin Healey told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme he had been abused online for five years over his autism campaign work.

He said: "Not even one troll has been prosecuted or jailed, even though I have made complaints to Twitter and the police.

"It's been a nightmare; it's been horrific - it doesn't go away. It's with you 24 hours and seven days a week, there's no escape from it".

Mr Healey said he doesn't think the changes will make any difference and wants changes to legislation in the UK - and abroad.

"With the laws in the UK, if someone is trolling you from outside the UK - and my last batch of trolls were from the US - the police said we can't do anything," he added.

'Sexting' ruling

The CPS says it will use "considerable caution" before charging those posting "grossly offensive" material.

The changes come after a report found that one in four teenagers is abused online over their sexual orientation, race, religion, gender or disability.

The CPS also said underage "sexting" between consenting children in a relationship should not be prosecuted, but cases which involve "exploitation, grooming or bullying" may lead to legal action.

Ms Saunders told the BBC: "If they are children, they are the same age, there's no suggestion or any coercion or bad motives, then we would not expect that case to be prosecuted. It shows you how careful you have to be about the context of it," she said.

Asked about whether guidelines on misogynistic hate crimes would be introduced, Ms Saunders said: "We probably need to think about it."

A new law on revenge porn - someone uploading explicit images or film of a former partner to humiliate or embarrass them - has led to the prosecution of 206 people across England and Wales since its introduction in April 2015.

The public policy statements on hate crime will be subject to public consultation for 13 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37601431
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2195 on: October 11, 2016, 02:17:28 AM »
Youre deluded brietta (as is the cps)  if you thnk police have the time and reaources to moniter all that
Thats all

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2196 on: October 11, 2016, 02:28:38 PM »
Youre deluded brietta (as is the cps)  if you thnk police have the time and reaources to moniter all that
Thats all

I would imagine there would be little requirement for the police to monitor very much of it if at all - except for training purposes.  Those who have cause for complaint will no doubt bring any outrages to police attention who will then investigate to check if the law is being broken and take the appropriate action if it is.

By the way ... I hope you meant to say that my post was deluded and not me personally, as that is contrary to forum etiquette.   
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2197 on: October 11, 2016, 11:29:36 PM »
Sorry Brietta, i have no idea what you are rabbitting on about

The cps can talk but its a far far cry from reality

People may be prosecuted forserious threats to life property and stalking, photoshopping pictures is not going to clam up the courts, trust me

It also belittles you alot to give me points for nothng...hey ho, do i look bothered???

Thats right
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 01:01:51 AM by mercury »

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2198 on: October 13, 2016, 07:47:48 PM »
You may or may not have seen this today.

A largish yacht pulled into Titchmarsh Marina in Essex.  The normal procedure is that the yacht radios ahead to find out which berth it is to use.  The yacht did not make this radio call.  It simply proceeded to a large jetty in the centre of the marina.

Seven men jumped out and headed to a nearby car park, where two cars were waiting.  The men piled in and the cars sped off.

The reason this was noticed was because it was caught on CCTV.

Why post this on a Madeleine forum?  This is an illustration that it is nigh-well impossible to seal off a country with a lot of harbours, whether that be the UK or Portugal.

Full story and the CCTV footage at http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2016-10-13/seven-men-sail-into-essex-marina-unannounced/
What's up, old man?

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2199 on: October 13, 2016, 08:24:42 PM »
You may or may not have seen this today.

A largish yacht pulled into Titchmarsh Marina in Essex.  The normal procedure is that the yacht radios ahead to find out which berth it is to use.  The yacht did not make this radio call.  It simply proceeded to a large jetty in the centre of the marina.

Seven men jumped out and headed to a nearby car park, where two cars were waiting.  The men piled in and the cars sped off.

The reason this was noticed was because it was caught on CCTV.

Why post this on a Madeleine forum?  This is an illustration that it is nigh-well impossible to seal off a country with a lot of harbours, whether that be the UK or Portugal.

Full story and the CCTV footage at http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2016-10-13/seven-men-sail-into-essex-marina-unannounced/

The Marina and a boat were always suspect.


Offline sadie

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2201 on: October 18, 2016, 10:36:29 PM »
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1989265/world-maddie-hunt-8685-potential-sightings-of-madeleine-mccann-in-101-countries/
Thanks Mercury

Interesting list but it only mentions one sighting in Malta and there were 28.  It doesn't mention the sighting walking around the bank in Molenbeek St John, nor the several in the Porto area of Portugal ... and these are the few I have noticed missing at a very quick glance

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2202 on: October 18, 2016, 11:25:11 PM »
I have published this link on my blog under a heading of 'we are approaching the 10th anniversary so we need some stock stories packed in'.

Get used to it.  You are going to see a lot more of this non 'news' in the next 7 months.  Once upon a time it was what was used to wrap your fish and chips.  Before the time you couldn't use it as wrapper.  Before there was no fish in fish and chips.

I R getting old.
What's up, old man?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2203 on: October 19, 2016, 07:55:03 AM »
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1989265/world-maddie-hunt-8685-potential-sightings-of-madeleine-mccann-in-101-countries/

I think the blanket appeal for information...

Quote
We would again like to appeal for any information, however small, that may lead to the safe return of Madeleine.

Overwhelmed the investigators and significantly hampered the search.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline sadie

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2204 on: October 19, 2016, 11:01:22 PM »
I think the blanket appeal for information...

Overwhelmed the investigators and significantly hampered the search.
I wonder why they didn't look at the 28 sightings in Malta, nor the several around Porto?