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Alfred R Jones

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #315 on: December 23, 2014, 03:55:59 PM »

Shamed into it were they?   Says who?  You?

Maybe they were just late putting it out.   

Why do some always have to say something nasty about what ever they do.
Because some people are complete bitches that's why.

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #316 on: December 23, 2014, 04:15:12 PM »
Past Christmas message dates from Kate and Gerry

21st December 2011

21st December 2012

20th December 2013

23rd December 2014

Bloody Nora a couple of days different.

Where's Amarals message?



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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #317 on: December 23, 2014, 04:25:40 PM »
Past Christmas message dates from Kate and Gerry

21st December 2011

21st December 2012

20th December 2013

23rd December 2014

Bloody Nora a couple of days different.

Where's Amarals message?


Yes just a couple of days,   what do they care anyway it's not for them is it.

Exactly,  WHERE'S AMARAL'S MESSAGE!!

Alfred R Jones

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #318 on: December 23, 2014, 04:26:26 PM »
Past Christmas message dates from Kate and Gerry

21st December 2011

21st December 2012

20th December 2013

23rd December 2014

Bloody Nora a couple of days different.

Where's Amarals message?
Christ, it shows the level or anticipation and obsession in the "sceptic" camp!  I had neither noticed, nor cared a jot that I hadn't received a Christmas message from the McCanns.  Some people really need to get a life.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #319 on: December 23, 2014, 04:28:57 PM »
The McCanns can thank their thousands of supporters but amaral would look a  bit silly posting a similar message to his handful.....

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #320 on: December 23, 2014, 08:27:21 PM »
Interestingly, I see that support for the McCanns has grown massively over the last few years on Facebook - their 2010 Christmas message only received 280 likes compared with over 4500 so far for this latest one.  So those who claim that the McCanns' support is dwindling are very mistaken.

One might wonder why they do it, in the face of the obvious.

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #321 on: December 23, 2014, 08:56:17 PM »
Oh dear Jane Longhurst case now on. Decomposing body smell detected in car boot. Reports of funny smell from his lockup. On cctv cleaning up body fluids and blood coming from big white box on pallet truck. I wonder what was inside? Not rotten meat! Graham Coutts and Paul Kelly the same man. He won't confess to her murder or hiding Jane's body for 5 weeks. Goes to trial and he claims it was accidental death  *&*%£ She coughed up blood when he strangled her to death. He got 30 years. The same similarities - reported funny smell in car, body fluids in boot, car boot left constantly open because of rotten meat. Do you think detectives believe that after both CSI dogs alerted to the car?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #322 on: December 23, 2014, 09:03:44 PM »
Oh dear Jane Longhurst case now on. Decomposing body smell detected in car boot. Reports of funny smell from his lockup. On cctv cleaning up body fluids and blood coming from big white box on pallet truck. I wonder what was inside? Not rotten meat! Graham Coutts and Paul Kelly the same man. He won't confess to her murder or hiding Jane's body for 5 weeks. Goes to trial and he claims it was accidental death  *&*%£ She coughed up blood when he strangled her to death. He got 30 years. The same similarities - reported funny smell in car, body fluids in boot, car boot left constantly open because of rotten meat. Do you think detectives believe that after both CSI dogs alerted to the car?

Did they?  How did they do that?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #323 on: December 23, 2014, 09:11:27 PM »
CSI dogs don't alert to rotten meat. He hid her body in his lockup for 5 weeks (using a different name) then moved her hidden in a big box on a palllet truck. Put her in the boot of his car, took her to a remote place and set the body alight. The fire was reported and she was discovered.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2014, 09:15:01 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #324 on: December 23, 2014, 09:40:13 PM »
Eddie was trained using pig foetuses; forgetting all his training and not waiting for a command he lunged into the apartment and ran round it, sniffing like mad, maybe reliving the wee puppy he once was when he was being  trained using eau de cochon.

I once encountered a student who worked with his father who was a pig farmer. 

There was evidence of a very strong smell associated with his work which IMO would be picked up by a dog for a long period from wherever that young man moved to in the room.

By the way, I found that opening windows dissipated the odour.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #325 on: December 23, 2014, 10:06:03 PM »
Eddie was trained using pig foetuses; forgetting all his training and not waiting for a command he lunged into the apartment and ran round it, sniffing like mad, maybe reliving the wee puppy he once was when he was being  trained using eau de cochon.

I once encountered a student who worked with his father who was a pig farmer. 

There was evidence of a very strong smell associated with his work which IMO would be picked up by a dog for a long period from wherever that young man moved to in the room.

By the way, I found that opening windows dissipated the odour.

The FBI used these dogs. Harrison recommended these dogs.

Eddie is an enhanced victim recovery dog and is specially trained to detect the scent of human remains. He is able to smell through solid materials, like concrete, because of scientific training techniques.

It's this training that sets him apart from standard police sniffer dogs, which are able to detect human remains in shallow graves. The springer's nose is more sensitive and he is called in on more complicated cases.

The specialist training techniques - which are highly confidential - were developed by Eddie's handler Martin Grime, along with the UK's National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA) and America's Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

"A standard sniffer dog is like a basic tool. An enhanced dog goes through much more training and is a lot more discriminating about smells, basically its nose is super sensitive. It's also about getting the dog to really focus on a task. Other dogs have to do other police duties but mine work full-time in this area, making them very sharp and highly skilled."

Charlotte Pinkney was abducted by an ex-boyfriend and has never been seen since.
An initial search by the EVRD revealed a 'classic' secondary deposition site near to a sighting of the suspect in suspicious circumstances.
The investigative team distrusted the dogs opinion until a full forensic search revealed a small button off of the girls clothing in long grass.
This evidence was put to the suspect who fully admitted the offence.

Distrust Eddie's alert? Were they mad. Seems so.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #326 on: December 23, 2014, 10:33:19 PM »
The FBI used these dogs. Harrison recommended these dogs.

Eddie is an enhanced victim recovery dog and is specially trained to detect the scent of human remains. He is able to smell through solid materials, like concrete, because of scientific training techniques.

It's this training that sets him apart from standard police sniffer dogs, which are able to detect human remains in shallow graves. The springer's nose is more sensitive and he is called in on more complicated cases.

The specialist training techniques - which are highly confidential - were developed by Eddie's handler Martin Grime, along with the UK's National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA) and America's Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

"A standard sniffer dog is like a basic tool. An enhanced dog goes through much more training and is a lot more discriminating about smells, basically its nose is super sensitive. It's also about getting the dog to really focus on a task. Other dogs have to do other police duties but mine work full-time in this area, making them very sharp and highly skilled."

Charlotte Pinkney was abducted by an ex-boyfriend and has never been seen since.
An initial search by the EVRD revealed a 'classic' secondary deposition site near to a sighting of the suspect in suspicious circumstances.
The investigative team distrusted the dogs opinion until a full forensic search revealed a small button off of the girls clothing in long grass.
This evidence was put to the suspect who fully admitted the offence.

Distrust Eddie's alert? Were they mad. Seems so.

Concrete isn't solid.

Eddie was a Victim Recovery Dog who was trained using pig foetuses.

Dogs indicate areas of interest.

Forensic examination provides evidence which backs up or rejects that indication.

In PDL Eddie ... who was trained using dead pig ... provided no indications which led to evidence being harvested.

... and you seem to have overlooked what I was saying in my post; just one of the dangers of being too enigmatic and not wishing to libel a person who in reality may be squeaky clean ...
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #327 on: December 23, 2014, 10:51:37 PM »
Oh dear Jane Longhurst case now on. Decomposing body smell detected in car boot. Reports of funny smell from his lockup. On cctv cleaning up body fluids and blood coming from big white box on pallet truck. I wonder what was inside? Not rotten meat! Graham Coutts and Paul Kelly the same man. He won't confess to her murder or hiding Jane's body for 5 weeks. Goes to trial and he claims it was accidental death  *&*%£ She coughed up blood when he strangled her to death. He got 30 years. The same similarities - reported funny smell in car, body fluids in boot, car boot left constantly open because of rotten meat. Do you think detectives believe that after both CSI dogs alerted to the car?

I think we have watched different programme. No dogs, no mention of funny smell in car, fluid in the boot, or the boot being left open because of rotting meat.

Nor on Court News.

http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/c_sex_killers/a_graham_coutts/crime_vaults/
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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #328 on: December 23, 2014, 10:55:36 PM »
I think we have watched different programme. No dogs, no mention of funny smell in car, fluid in the boot, or the boot being left open because of rotting meat.

Nor on Court News.

http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/c_sex_killers/a_graham_coutts/crime_vaults/

Thank you DCI,

I was checking it out, but it would  make things so much easier if the poster supplied the link. but I guess that is asking too much.



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http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/c_sex_killers/a_graham_coutts/crime_vaults/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1453475/30-years-jail-for-killer-necrophiliac.html
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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #329 on: December 23, 2014, 11:04:09 PM »
The FBI used these dogs. Harrison recommended these dogs.

Eddie is an enhanced victim recovery dog and is specially trained to detect the scent of human remains. He is able to smell through solid materials, like concrete, because of scientific training techniques.

It's this training that sets him apart from standard police sniffer dogs, which are able to detect human remains in shallow graves. The springer's nose is more sensitive and he is called in on more complicated cases.

The specialist training techniques - which are highly confidential - were developed by Eddie's handler Martin Grime, along with the UK's National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA) and America's Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

"A standard sniffer dog is like a basic tool. An enhanced dog goes through much more training and is a lot more discriminating about smells, basically its nose is super sensitive. It's also about getting the dog to really focus on a task. Other dogs have to do other police duties but mine work full-time in this area, making them very sharp and highly skilled."

Charlotte Pinkney was abducted by an ex-boyfriend and has never been seen since.
An initial search by the EVRD revealed a 'classic' secondary deposition site near to a sighting of the suspect in suspicious circumstances.
The investigative team distrusted the dogs opinion until a full forensic search revealed a small button off of the girls clothing in long grass.
This evidence was put to the suspect who fully admitted the offence.

Distrust Eddie's alert? Were they mad. Seems so.

Mark Harrison distrusted Eddie's alerts.

That is clear enough if you read his reports carefully.