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Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #270 on: December 22, 2014, 10:36:16 AM »
I think she might need it too, Faith.

Indeed Anna  8(8-))
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #271 on: December 22, 2014, 10:42:15 AM »
As I recall from the Jill Dando case, a residue of firearms discharge found (from memory) in Barry George's pocket was held to have been (possibly) planted, although there was no evidence that it had been planted.

I may have a look at that case. Somebody very close to her set her up. The hitman was there earlier than when she arrived home but she had gone shopping which explained the delay and no cars were found to be tracking her &%+((£
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #272 on: December 22, 2014, 06:45:13 PM »
DCI Wall, takes over the investigation, Today.
http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2013/04/04/may-2013-vogue-true-crime
Interesting article

"prides herself on her investigative speed"

"attributes her low media profile to the fact 'we solve cases so quickly ...' "

Offline jassi

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #273 on: December 22, 2014, 06:53:24 PM »
http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2013/04/04/may-2013-vogue-true-crime
Interesting article

"prides herself on her investigative speed"

"attributes her low media profile to the fact 'we solve cases so quickly ...' "

I imagine people in the Met tend to be pretty low profile unless they hold one of the most senior jobs.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Anna

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #274 on: December 22, 2014, 07:05:54 PM »
http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2013/04/04/may-2013-vogue-true-crime
Interesting article

"prides herself on her investigative speed"

"attributes her low media profile to the fact 'we solve cases so quickly ...' "

Thank you Pegasus. It is very interesting. A very down to earth lady.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #275 on: December 22, 2014, 07:58:11 PM »
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 04:54:05 AM by John »

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #276 on: December 22, 2014, 08:06:48 PM »
Thank you Pegasus. It is very interesting. A very down to earth lady.


An excellent article indeed.
Highly informative and gives an insight into the organisation and teamwork which goes on in the incident rooms of SY ... with very clear lines and chains of command and responsibility.

** snipped
When cases break, Stewart is very much the brains of the operation; it's a fallacy that detectives spend their days charging around revisiting crime scenes or examining witnesses, as we might assume.

"You couldn't do it all," she says.

In most incident rooms, the workload is spread among about 18 detectives, most of whom have been trained specifically for different roles.
 
"I'm much more the co-ordinator," she continues.
"I allocate things: the family liaison officer; someone to trawl through the CCTV. We'd have a house-to-house co-ordinator. I probably wouldn't meet the witness unless there was some problem - if we could give her any assistance with protection and that kind of thing…

Then you've got one case officer who will take the case to court eventually, an exhibits officer, the telephones officer and a float."

The biggest surprise is how rarely she even interviews the suspects. "We have specialist interviewers, so they would interview," she explains.
So those psychologically charged detective/murderer interview showdowns we enjoy so much on screen? Pure fiction.

Stewart describes her most valuable skill as "good leadership. Being here, being open to talk to everyone, knowing the team, who they are, what their strengths are. I think the best managers are good people persons," she says.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anna

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #277 on: December 22, 2014, 08:09:17 PM »
Cause and effect in practice.

www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/92dec14/PortugalResident_22_12_2014.htm

http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-new-shock-as-tour-operator-drops-%E2%80%9Cinfamous%E2%80%9D-ocean-club-resort

How many people have and will lose their livelihoods, and do the mccanns give a f##k ?

It is being taken over by different tour operators, Thomas Cook.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2014, 04:54:19 AM by John »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #278 on: December 22, 2014, 08:13:09 PM »
It is being taken over by different tour operators, Thomas Cook.

I read that.  Whether that will result in the loss of jobs remains to be seen.

Also, of relevance, how many people have lost their jobs there, in the aftermath of 2007 ?

and of course, what is the drop in tourism to that region, which is no fault at all of the residents.

Offline Anna

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #279 on: December 22, 2014, 08:20:33 PM »
I read that.  Whether that will result in the loss of jobs remains to be seen.

Also, of relevance, how many people have lost their jobs there, in the aftermath of 2007 ?

and of course, what is the drop in tourism to that region, which is no fault at all of the residents.

Its not Maddie's fault either, Stephen. Do you think her disappearance should not have been investigated?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pegasus

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #280 on: December 22, 2014, 08:24:15 PM »
Another interesting point in
http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2013/04/04/may-2013-vogue-true-crime

In the section about Detective Stewart:
 "I probably wouldn't meet the witness".
and
"how rarely she even interviews the suspects"

So it is fairly standard SY procedure for the investigation leader to not meet with the main witnesses and not meet with people being investigated.
Yet some peeps have been criticising Mr Amaral for adhering exactly to that SY practice.

I hope very much that the new investigation leader Detective Wall will follow this good practice exactly like Mr Amaral did, and not personally have meetings with the main witnesses.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2014, 08:33:23 PM by pegasus »

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #281 on: December 22, 2014, 08:29:14 PM »
Its not Maddie's fault either, Stephen. Do you think her disappearance should not have been investigated?

Did I say that ?

Offline pegasus

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #282 on: December 22, 2014, 08:30:54 PM »

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #283 on: December 22, 2014, 08:32:11 PM »
Another interesting point in
http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2013/04/04/may-2013-vogue-true-crime

In the section about Detective Stewart:
 "I probably wouldn't meet the witness".
and
"how rarely she even interviews the suspects"

So it is fairly standard SY procedure for the investigation leader to not meet with the main witnesses and not meet with people being investigated.
Yet some peeps have been criticising Mr Amaral for adhering exactly to that SY practice.

I hope very much that the new investigation leader Detective Wall will follow this good practice exactly like Mr Amaral did, and not personally have meetings with the main witnesses.

Will she write a book on her hypothesis of The McCann's guilt if she fails to solve the case?
Personally, I doubt it.

Offline Anna

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #284 on: December 22, 2014, 08:36:48 PM »
Did I say that ?

No. You said "it's no fault at all of the residents"
I very much, sympathise with them too, but nobody is at fault, so what is it you were you trying to say, exactly?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato