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Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2835 on: May 12, 2017, 10:00:30 AM »
He admits he didn't arrive until 11.45 am, by which time the McCanns and the other interviewees among their friends were gone from Luz.

Perhaps he was still working on European time.  One hour ahead.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2836 on: May 12, 2017, 10:05:30 AM »
Thanks you're very kind.  Perhaps you could explain why a few (very) trivial details in the journo's first hand account make this article worthless and he a "know-nothing"?   It strikes me that you are determined to pour scorn on this article -  but why?  Could it be that it is for the simple reason that the author firmly believes the McCanns did not hide their child's body?  Surely he's entitled to an opinion and surely you respect his right to this opinion, don't you?

He was on the ground, Alfie.

He was therefore well placed to ascertain how physically impossible it would have been for the McCanns to have done what they are accused of.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2837 on: May 12, 2017, 10:08:32 AM »
He admits he didn't arrive until 11.45 am, by which time the McCanns and the other interviewees among their friends were gone from Luz.

It doesn't mean his memory of the time is correct G.      The differences between times remembered in many of the witness statements are vast - even though they are all talking about the same event.

He may have mis-remembered the time he arrived, but that doesn't prove he wasn't there.

Your apparent expectation that everyone should be able to remember the precise time of every move they made at any given time is totally unrealistic imo.

The human memory is notoriously fallible.

AIMHO


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2838 on: May 12, 2017, 10:09:20 AM »
Perhaps he was still working on European time.  One hour ahead.

Very probably he didn't take time to adjust his watch prior to setting out from his base in Spain.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2839 on: May 12, 2017, 10:09:57 AM »
Thanks you're very kind.  Perhaps you could explain why a few (very) trivial details in the journo's first hand account make this article worthless and he a "know-nothing"?   It strikes me that you are determined to pour scorn on this article -  but why?  Could it be that it is for the simple reason that the author firmly believes the McCanns did not hide their child's body?  Surely he's entitled to an opinion and surely you respect his right to this opinion, don't you?

He's entitled to his opinion as is everyone. As a journalist he should check his facts too. If his facts are wrong his opinion doesn't deserve to be valued.
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Alfie

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« Reply #2840 on: May 12, 2017, 10:11:21 AM »
He's entitled to his opinion as is everyone. As a journalist he should check his facts too. If his facts are wrong his opinion doesn't deserve to be valued.
What, so because he misremembered the time he arrived the whole article can be dismissed as a piece of crap is that what you're saying?

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2841 on: May 12, 2017, 10:13:06 AM »
So you already 'know' what happened?
One wonders why the Policia Judiciaria and Scotland Yard have placed such store in their continuing investigations when all they have to do is ask you.

Like I asked you yesterday, have they solved the crime ?

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2842 on: May 12, 2017, 10:16:48 AM »
Like I asked you yesterday, have they solved the crime ?

I'm very much hoping they do and while they are at it manage to recover Madeleine.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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« Reply #2843 on: May 12, 2017, 10:19:20 AM »
I'm very much hoping they do and while they are at it manage to recover Madeleine.

I would view that possibility as close to a miracle.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2844 on: May 12, 2017, 10:23:28 AM »
I would view that possibility as close to a miracle.

Belief in miracles got Madeleine's case reopened ... so don't knock them, they happen all the time.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2845 on: May 12, 2017, 10:30:52 AM »
Belief in miracles got Madeleine's case reopened ... so don't knock them, they happen all the time.

That wan'tr a miracle.

That was Rebekah Brooks, close friend of David Cameron.

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2846 on: May 12, 2017, 10:35:52 AM »
It doesn't mean his memory of the time is correct G.      The differences between times remembered in many of the witness statements are vast - even though they are all talking about the same event.

He may have mis-remembered the time he arrived, but that doesn't prove he wasn't there.

Your apparent expectation that everyone should be able to remember the precise time of every move they made at any given time is totally unrealistic imo.

The human memory is notoriously fallible.

AIMHO

So he got it wrong about when he arrived?
He says;

"When I arrived at about 11.45am I was firstly able to walk into the apartment, where I introduced myself to the McCanns and told them I would do everything I could to help."

Perhaps his watch was still on Spanish time, so he left Spain at 6.45 am, not 7.45 am and arrived at 10.45 am not 11.45 am? As the PJ arrived at 10 am to take the McCanns to Portimao he still missed them, I'm afraid. He's wrong about being able to enter 5A too, and even if he had, the McCanns weren't in there, the forensic people were.


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Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2847 on: May 12, 2017, 10:36:27 AM »
That wan'tr a miracle.

That was Rebekah Brooks, close friend of David Cameron.

The Lord works in mysterious ways.  If Ms Brooks was the best instrument He had to hand ... why ever not use her?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2848 on: May 12, 2017, 10:39:14 AM »
The Lord works in mysterious ways.  If Ms Brooks was the best instrument He had to hand ... why ever not use her?

Well if you believe in the Lord, to use an old cliche, why did he allow this to happen ?

Perhaps though, this is off topic.


Alfie

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2849 on: May 12, 2017, 10:41:51 AM »
So he got it wrong about when he arrived? He also got it wrong about speaking to the parents upon his arrival.

He says;

"When I arrived at about 11.45am I was firstly able to walk into the apartment, where I introduced myself to the McCanns and told them I would do everything I could to help."

Perhaps his watch was still on Spanish time, so he left Spain at 6.45 am, not 7.45 am and arrived at 10.45 am not 11.45 am? As the PJ arrived at 10 am to take the McCanns to Portimao he still missed them, I'm afraid. He's wrong about being able to enter 5A too, and even if he had, the McCanns weren't in there, the forensic people were.
Do you have a cite for the PJ leaving on the dot of 10am?  Kate wasn't interviewed until 2pm - the journey to the station is less than half an hour so what was the poor woman doing for 3 and a half hours at the station prior to the interview? 

You (who was not there) know better than the man himself (who was) that he did not meet the parents on the morning of the 4th - quite incredible!
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