Jeremy Bamber - a lost cause

[John]

Forget the silencer, forget the family, forget the police, forget Julie Mugford.

LOOK AT SHEILA, she is the strongest piece of evidence proving her own innocence.

Brilliant post.

I completely agree, when all is said and done it is the forensics relating to Sheila which tell the tale.  Jeremy couldn't properly duplicate events to make it appear that Sheila had done it all.  There was always going to be something which gave the game away.

The blue forum and those who proffer on behalf of Jeremy always chose to ignore this evidence because they know that it cannot be overturned.

[Andrea]

It sounds as though there will be a fourth attempt at applying to the CCRC for appeal, how long would that take?

[ActualMat]

Well the CCRC have to agree to look at the case again. They've said that they've closed the case and made their final decision.

If the CCRC agree to look at the case again I'd imaigne a 2-3 year wait.

[Andrea]

2-3 yrs?

I thought it may take longer, do the CCRC have to look at every submission they recieve? Could they just ignore Bamber when he applies again?

[Andrea]

Is the JR all done and dusted, finished with?

[John]

It sounds as though there will be a fourth attempt at applying to the CCRC for appeal, how long would that take?

I don't see why.  There isn't anything they could possibly do which will ever change the decision.  The best they can ever hope for is joint enterprise which basically changes NOTHING.   

[Andrea]

It sounds as though there will be a fourth attempt at applying to the CCRC for appeal, how long would that take?

I don't see why.  There isn't anything they could possibly do which will ever change the decision.  The best they can ever hope for is joint enterprise which basically changes NOTHING.   

Do you think there could have been a third party John?

[John]

It sounds as though there will be a fourth attempt at applying to the CCRC for appeal, how long would that take?

I don't see why.  There isn't anything they could possibly do which will ever change the decision.  The best they can ever hope for is joint enterprise which basically changes NOTHING.   

Do you think there could have been a third party John?

There could have been but I personally don't believe there was.  However, I firmly believe that there were at least two others who knew in advance about his plans as well as Julie Mugford.

[Tim Invictus]

I seem to remember the CCRC telling Bamber's defense team that they wanted to see everything that was possibly considered new evidence at the last failed application. Obviously inferring that this was make or break for Bamber (do or die ... in prison!).

That is why the CCRC bent over backwards to accommodate Bamber and his solicitors; allowing 3 extensions of deadlines I believe AND excepting submissions when they failed to meet the 'final' deadline. I don't think there can be any doubt that the CCRC decided this was definitely Bamber's last hurrah and they now consider this case done and dusted.

Does anyone else remember them saying they wanted to see all possible submissions?

[Angelo222]

I seem to remember the CCRC telling Bamber's defense team that they wanted to see everything that was possibly considered new evidence at the last failed application. Obviously inferring that this was make or break for Bamber (do or die ... in prison!).

That is why the CCRC bent over backwards to accommodate Bamber and his solicitors; allowing 3 extensions of deadlines I believe AND excepting submissions when they failed to meet the 'final' deadline. I don't think there can be any doubt that the CCRC decided this was definitely Bamber's last hurrah and they now consider this case done and dusted.

Does anyone else remember them saying they wanted to see all possible submissions?

Without denying genuine cases the opportunity to reach the appeal court I would say that if the rumour of a further approach to the CCRC is true then Bamber's defence team are sorely tempting fate.  I remember that as well Tim so for them to even be considering approaching the CCRC after everything that has gone on over the last 6 months is farcical.

[Padgates staff]

I wish it had never happened.

What do you wish hadn't happened, Joanne?

Its not stopped the people it's meant to have and I can't see it stopping anytime soon, so thats how ever many hours of time I'm never going to get back.

[ActualMat]

I seem to remember the CCRC telling Bamber's defense team that they wanted to see everything that was possibly considered new evidence at the last failed application. Obviously inferring that this was make or break for Bamber (do or die ... in prison!).

That is why the CCRC bent over backwards to accommodate Bamber and his solicitors; allowing 3 extensions of deadlines I believe AND excepting submissions when they failed to meet the 'final' deadline. I don't think there can be any doubt that the CCRC decided this was definitely Bamber's last hurrah and they now consider this case done and dusted.

Does anyone else remember them saying they wanted to see all possible submissions?

Good post, Tim.

I wish it had never happened.

What do you wish hadn't happened, Joanne?

Its not stopped the people it's meant to have and I can't see it stopping anytime soon, so thats how ever many hours of time I'm never going to get back.

It's helped me though to be fair.

[John]

I seem to remember the CCRC telling Bamber's defense team that they wanted to see everything that was possibly considered new evidence at the last failed application. Obviously inferring that this was make or break for Bamber (do or die ... in prison!).

That is why the CCRC bent over backwards to accommodate Bamber and his solicitors; allowing 3 extensions of deadlines I believe AND excepting submissions when they failed to meet the 'final' deadline. I don't think there can be any doubt that the CCRC decided this was definitely Bamber's last hurrah and they now consider this case done and dusted.

Does anyone else remember them saying they wanted to see all possible submissions?

Quite correct...it was all or nothing.

[Angelo222]

Many of you don't follow the Bamber saga on twitter but the bit I find galling is the continual assertion by tweeters of whom 99% are female that Jeremy is innocent yet without exception fail to provide any substance to this claim.  It would appear to be the same group of about five suspects who are most probably closely linked to the campaign team headed by Miss Daniele.  They never provide anything new and constantly revert to old scripts which have been shown to be of little substance by the recent ccrc decision and judicial review judgement. 

I find it amusing that the only response to such refusals to refer the case is the repeat claim that they have again uncovered some spectacular new evidence.  Those of us who have followed and delved into the case in great depth know that such claims are a smokescreen though and always amount to a big fat zero.  Will they ever accept the truth I ask myself?

[Padgates staff]

David, It's because nobody has made a programme showing how Jeremy did it. There was a 'Crimes that shook britain' which didn't really show much at all either way and then another programme called 'Bamber-the new evidence' which tells how he DIDN'T do it. Plus I think JB doesn't fit the profile of a murderer as a lot of females would imagine, he's quite well turned out, quite good looing, had money and he doesn't look like a scary Manson type.
Real crime did a programme about JB but I can't recall ever seeing it, unless it's the same as CTSB under another name for the CI channel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-OlvzCVrmc

I think a lot of people make assumptions on looks rather than evidence.