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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Security at the secondary reception entrance.
« Reply #90 on: January 16, 2018, 11:05:52 AM »
Yes, if the owners didn't live there or were simply away and didn't have a maintenance conrtract, there was no available key. The GNR would have needed a search warrant and presumably forced entry.
So apartment 5C may not have been examined even though there were people at the premises that day.  That should have been enough to get as search warrant.
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Offline Carana

Re: Security at the secondary reception entrance.
« Reply #91 on: January 16, 2018, 11:36:44 AM »
So apartment 5C may not have been examined even though there were people at the premises that day.  That should have been enough to get as search warrant.

I'm not sure if the GNR could have applied for search warrants themselves, or whether it would have had to have been the PJ.

But, yes, the apparent sighting of two guys (?) at the flat has often intrigued me. It could be quite innocent, obviously, but As has the the flat with the rotting food (that can happen - it's happened to me), but I don't know if anyone every got to the bottom of that.

There were also a few others lurking in the files, from memory, that they wanted to check around Luz but didn't (or didn't for a long time) as they couldn't locate the owners.

Offline Benice

Re: Security at the secondary reception entrance.
« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2018, 11:44:20 AM »
I'm not sure if the GNR could have applied for search warrants themselves, or whether it would have had to have been the PJ.

But, yes, the apparent sighting of two guys (?) at the flat has often intrigued me. It could be quite innocent, obviously, but As has the the flat with the rotting food (that can happen - it's happened to me), but I don't know if anyone every got to the bottom of that.

There were also a few others lurking in the files, from memory, that they wanted to check around Luz but didn't (or didn't for a long time) as they couldn't locate the owners.

Those two men have never come forward AFAIK.   Even if they were innocent tourists -   with the worldwide publicity this case attracted, one cannot help but wonder why.
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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Security at the secondary reception entrance.
« Reply #93 on: January 16, 2018, 07:14:06 PM »
Those two men have never come forward AFAIK.   Even if they were innocent tourists -   with the worldwide publicity this case attracted, one cannot help but wonder why.
IMO
Unless there is another part of the file that has not been released.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Security at the secondary reception entrance.
« Reply #94 on: January 19, 2018, 07:44:03 AM »
Looking at this statement  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm
"When asked, he says that the meals served are not restricted to guests of the resort and that guests can invite people from outside of the resort. In any case the witness says that it is not usual for people from outside of the resort to dine there."  For these people to enter the area without an access card the security door at the mini-reception would have to remain open till all the guests have arrived.
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Re: Security at the secondary reception entrance.
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