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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #300 on: January 21, 2018, 09:48:58 AM »
Intense.  Very interesting to see what happens next.
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Offline sadie

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #301 on: January 21, 2018, 10:42:00 AM »
You suggested visiting a location after an event would assist recollection, yes?
Have you forgottten that I suggested that Jane, uncertain upon reflection abouit the exact position she had seen Gerry and Jez chatting revisited the spot to check. 

Jane is no slouch.  As that was likely, with all the worry of a little missing girl, to be IMMEDIATELY after the statement, Yes, I think it would have jogged her memory.

Pity that Amaral decided not to do a reconstruction immediately it was aparant that Madeleine was gone and likely abducted.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #302 on: January 21, 2018, 10:52:57 AM »
Have you forgottten that I suggested that Jane, uncertain upon reflection abouit the exact position she had seen Gerry and Jez chatting revisited the spot to check. 

Jane is no slouch.  As that was likely, with all the worry of a little missing girl, to be IMMEDIATELY after the statement, Yes, I think it would have jogged her memory.

Pity that Amaral decided not to do a reconstruction immediately it was aparant that Madeleine was gone and likely abducted.
I was surprised Silvia and the GNR PJ or whoever was there, didn't go with Jane to understand where she was when she saw the man.
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Offline Carana

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #303 on: January 21, 2018, 11:09:03 AM »
Not sure where to reply as we seem to be OT.

Offline John

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #304 on: January 21, 2018, 12:55:32 PM »
Lets get this clear.

I think that a reconstitution could have been very valuable had it been done instantly .... but months afterwards  *&^^&  %56&

It should have been done within days in my view but even done later it would have been of some value.  The point however which is lost in some is that the tapas group and others refused to participate in a reconstruction and that speaks volumes.  Warrants should have been issued for their arrest and dragged back to Portugal to face charges of obstruction IMO.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #305 on: January 21, 2018, 12:59:53 PM »
I dont often diagree with you, Brietta

BUT

I think that you are making excuses for him.

A really good cop would have checked all those things out before leaping to blame the parents with NO EVIDENCE IMO

There was a sufficiency of evidence to support them being brought in as official suspects in the disappearance of their own child.  What was absent ultimately however was enough proof to charge them.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #306 on: January 21, 2018, 01:00:33 PM »
It should have been done within days in my view but even done later it would have been of some value.  The point however which is lost in some is that the tapas group and others refused to participate in a reconstruction and that speaks volumes.


Indeed, in the meantime back on thread...
 has any supporter with the help from the Tapas managed to compile and  report ALL the transnational errors, and lies told by everyone who is allegedly out to blame the McCanns for ... leaving their children alone every night.?

No? Didn't think so.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #307 on: January 21, 2018, 01:03:55 PM »
It should have been done within days in my view but even done later it would have been of some value.  The point however which is lost in some is that the tapas group and others refused to participate in a reconstruction and that speaks volumes.  Warrants should have been issued for their arrest and dragged back to Portugal to face charges of obstruction IMO.

Not possible.  They can't just drag back any old person against whom they have no evidence.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #308 on: January 21, 2018, 01:11:46 PM »
Not possible.  They can't just drag back any old person against whom they have no evidence.

I am sure they have evidence or obstruction and leaving a minor in danger and many other laws which may
 have been broken, however I am completely surprised that this was not taken up with our Police and Social services back home. Well apart from the 12+ millions looking for an apparition of an abductor as per remit.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline sadie

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #309 on: January 21, 2018, 01:41:45 PM »
You suggested visiting a location after an event would assist recollection, yes?
Have you forgottten that I suggested that Jane, uncertain upon reflection abouit the exact position she had seen Gerry and Jez chatting revisited the spot to check. 

Jane is no slouch.  As that was likely, with all the worry of a little missing girl, to be checked IMMEDIATELY after the statement,   Yes, I think it would have jogged her memory.

Pity that Amaral decided not to do a reconstruction immediately it was apparent that Madeleine was gone and likely abducted.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #310 on: January 21, 2018, 01:46:38 PM »
I am sure they have evidence or obstruction and leaving a minor in danger and many other laws which may
 have been broken, however I am completely surprised that this was not taken up with our Police and Social services back home. Well apart from the 12+ millions looking for an apparition of an abductor as per remit.

There is no evidence that the rest of The Tapas Group were involved in any way.

Offline Carana

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #311 on: January 21, 2018, 03:19:36 PM »
It should have been done within days in my view but even done later it would have been of some value.  The point however which is lost in some is that the tapas group and others refused to participate in a reconstruction and that speaks volumes.  Warrants should have been issued for their arrest and dragged back to Portugal to face charges of obstruction IMO.

Are you saying that Jez should have been arrested as well?

Wouldn't have been more useful if Amaral had organised one in the first couple of weeks while everyone was still there, prior to the major onslought of pro-PJ "leaks"?


Offline jassi

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #312 on: January 21, 2018, 03:36:54 PM »
Are you saying that Jez should have been arrested as well?

Wouldn't have been more useful if Amaral had organised one in the first couple of weeks while everyone was still there, prior to the major onslought of pro-PJ "leaks"?

I think there is no doubt that should have been the case. There may have been circumstance that made that difficult, be it still should have happened.
It could have resolved so many doubts and uncertainties that have lingered over the years.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #313 on: January 21, 2018, 06:01:31 PM »
Not possible.  They can't just drag back any old person against whom they have no evidence.
It could be an offence not to cooperate with an investigation, they were talking about issuing summonses to force them to return but then it would be a drawn out legal battle, in some way I think they got what they wanted in that it identified those most reluctant to return.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the translation errors of critical relevance?
« Reply #314 on: January 21, 2018, 06:05:33 PM »
It could be an offence not to cooperate with an investigation, they were talking about issuing summonses to force them to return but then it would be a drawn out legal battle, in some way I think they got what they wanted in that it identified those most reluctant to return.
An arguido does not have to answer questions so it cant be an offence not to co operate. It seems taht the only way to force someone to return is via an international arrest warrant and these can only be issued for prosecutions not for investigations...in short they could not be forced to return and their decision was the right one...imo