Where were Jez and Gerry standing when they did their talking? Ideas solutions

[Robittybob1]

The waiter who served them at the table had them all gone except Dianne at 21:50. The PJ made a mistake didn't they? Smithman was after the alarm was raised and if they investigated it properly they would have known this to be the truth.

Cite please.

[Brietta]

The waiter who served them at the table had them all gone except Dianne at 21:50. The PJ made a mistake didn't they? Smithman was after the alarm was raised and if they investigated it properly they would have known this to be the truth.

It would be helpful if you would provide a cite ... it would save me asking.

Same goes for all future posts.  Thank you

[Brietta]

Cite please.

    SNAP!!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Matt said Kate left to check at 21:50 which was at least 10 minutes before the Smith sighting so none are ruled out. The waiter had them all gone except Dianne at 21:50.

How long was Dianne left on her own?

[faithlilly]

I agree with your first sentence but not the latter.

The PJ accepted that once Gerry had returned to the table after his meeting with Jes, there is no record of him leaving it thereafter and he was still there when Kate came running back to raise the alarm that Madeleine was gone.

We have no independent witnesses who verify that. The PJ had to accept Gerry's alibi, how could they argue against 9 people with no other witnesses ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

We have no independent witnesses who verify that. The PJ had to accept Gerry's alibi, how could they argue against 9 people with no other witnesses ?

Only by deducing that they were all involved in a cover up to protect two of the group, however IMO the PJ looked at the facts and realised that this was not very likely.

[Alice Purjorick]

Only by deducing that they were all involved in a cover up to protect two of the group, however IMO the PJ looked at the facts and realised that this was not very likely.

How about one of these dreadfully esoteric diseases/conditions that spring up on this case from time to time whereby you cannot see someone next to you?

[Vertigo Swirl]

How about one of these dreadfully esoteric diseases/conditions that spring up on this case from time to time whereby you cannot see someone next to you?

Except none of the Tapas Group claimed they couldn't see Gerry at the time the alarm was raised. 

[jassi]

Except none of the Tapas Group claimed they couldn't see Gerry at the time the alarm was raised.

Except Jane of course.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Except Jane of course.

true, but then she didn't claim to be sat at the table at the time either.

[Robittybob1]

true, but then she didn't claim to be sat at the table at the time either.

It is odd how many say they were all there, when in fact according to Jane she wasn't there.

[G-Unit]

Except none of the Tapas Group claimed they couldn't see Gerry at the time the alarm was raised.

Which means it all comes down to the time of the alert.

Dinner would end at about 21.45, a few minutes later the witness looked at the table and saw that there was nobody there
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

Which means it all comes down to the time of the alert.

Dinner would end at about 21.45, a few minutes later the witness looked at the table and saw that there was nobody there
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm

In his second statement he clarifies that Dianne Webster was still sat at the table at that point, and we know from her statement that she sat there for a few minutes, then went to the apartment where she saw Gerry - if you say dinner ended at 21.45, and a few minutes later the table was vacated (apart from DW) and she sat there for a few minutes and went to the apartment where she saw GMC what time does that take us to?

[pathfinder73]

Cite please.

G-Unit gave you this one.

Dinner would end at about 21.45, a few minutes later the witness looked at the table and saw that there was nobody there
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm

By the way, he clarifies that that news had been communicated to all the friends who were in the Tapas by Kate McCann subsequent to her having personally been to her flat to check that her children were well.

The question asked, he relates that she had gone there alone to do that at 21:50.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm

— Around 22H00, they left Kelly's Bar. The group headed, on foot, for their apartment.
— Questioned, she responds that she knows the time that they left because her father and her brother decided to leave early that night. (Aoife Smith)
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

G-Unit gave you this one.

Dinner would end at about 21.45, a few minutes later the witness looked at the table and saw that there was nobody there
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm

By the way, he clarifies that that news had been communicated to all the friends who were in the Tapas by Kate McCann subsequent to her having personally been to her flat to check that her children were well.

The question asked, he relates that she had gone there alone to do that at 21:50.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm

— Around 22H00, they left Kelly's Bar. The group headed, on foot, for their apartment.
— Questioned, she responds that she knows the time that they left because her father and her brother decided to leave early that night. (Aoife Smith)
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

From Martin Smith's first statement
In 'Kelly's Bar' they consumed some drinks. They left that establishment around 21H55 as his son would be travelling very early the next day