The Smithman e-fits

[Carana]

There was a flurry of media reports about the Smiths in early January 2008. On 30th January 2008 Martin Smith told the Garda that;

He has been contacted by numerous tabloid press looking for stories......He has given no stories
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

I have learned that media reports are often misleading or downright false. Consequently I'm very reluctant to use or accept most of them as evidence of anything.

OMG, G-Unit, we must stop agreeing on various points. 

NB: I AM joking, I agree or disagree with anyone of whatever persuasion if I happen to have reached the same conclusion.

[G-Unit]

OMG, G-Unit, we must stop agreeing on various points. 

NB: I AM joking, I agree or disagree with anyone of whatever persuasion if I happen to have reached the same conclusion.

I find it very encouraging that we can agree about the validity or otherwise of the evidence upon which people base their opinions/arguments. If the evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny then the opinion/argument doesn't either imo.

[Miss Taken Identity]

There was a flurry of media reports about the Smiths in early January 2008. On 30th January 2008 Martin Smith told the Garda that;

He has been contacted by numerous tabloid press looking for stories......He has given no stories
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

I have learned that media reports are often misleading or downright false. Consequently I'm very reluctant to use or accept most of them as evidence of anything.

Especially since we learned that the McCanns were paying to have  constant news coverage . These were the media shy victims of a crime apparently.
Pathetic.

[Robittybob1]

Especially since we learned that the McCanns were paying to have  constant news coverage . These were the media shy victims of a crime apparently.
Pathetic.

I don't think you can prove that.

[sadie]

If he is going past LuzDoc at 09:47 PM perfect timing to be Madeleine's abductor. IMO.

Where did you get that time from, Rob ?    Have I missed something or is it in your opinion only ?

[Robittybob1]

Where did you get that time from, Rob ?    Have I missed something or is it in your opinion only ?

Good to see you  Sadie.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9168.msg453059#msg453059 was where I did the calculations.

[Robittybob1]

Good to see you  Sadie.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9168.msg453059#msg453059 was where I did the calculations.

There was 1 payment at 21H39  for 13.75 euros.  How many drinks would that buy?  Do you pay at the time of getting the drinks and then you got to drink them before getting back out on the road.    All seems a bit of a rush.  Could be done in 10 minutes I suppose.
Was there any attempt to match the payment made by the Smiths to the till receipts? 

[Robittybob1]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

"On this date at about 15.00 we went to Kelly's Bar, located in Rua da Calheta, in Praia da Luz. At the site we were received by an employee of the bar identified as L***** A**** M**** who had been on duty on the night of 3rd May 2007.

When questioned whether on the night in question she remembered the visit to the bar by witness Martin Smith and his family, she replied that she does not remember given the lapse of time between the events and because the bar is daily frequented by dozens of clients of different nationalities.

All the available documentation was requested concerning the expenses in the bar on the night of 3rd May 2007 as we were given the cash register from which photocopies were made referring to the period between 20.00 and 24.00, which is annexed to this report."

They didn't seem to be that busy on the night.  I wonder how much of the trade didn't go through the till!  Doesn't seem busy enough to remain open IMO.

[pathfinder73]

Pubs mainly stick to normal opening times regardless of numbers. This was a Thursday night out of season so it wouldn't be expected to be busy. Smithman was indeed lucky and he could easily have hidden the child without being seen. That's a big empty dark beach - low tide 10pm 3 May 2007.

If anybody went out searching alone without being seen then they possibly knew the hiding spot (why search alone hours later and not immediately? Suspicious behaviour and there's a reason for everything!) and that presents the possibility of a further move.

[sadie]

Good to see you  Sadie.  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9168.msg453059#msg453059 was where I did the calculations.

Thank you Rob.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I would be interested in any reason Mr Smith would have for saying 60/80% was not true, who would benefit?

[Brietta]

I would be interested in any reason Mr Smith would have for saying 60/80% was not true, who would benefit?

His reason? ... Because he believed it to be true?

[Miss Taken Identity]

His reason? ... Because he believed it to be true?

Yes indeed.  So what reason would he have for telling lies and making it up?

[Robittybob1]

I would be interested in any reason Mr Smith would have for saying 60/80% was not true, who would benefit?

Has anyone considered a connection to the IRA?  Gerry being one of the Irish now being involved with the British Government. Could there be a connection?

[Brietta]

Yes indeed.  So what reason would he have for telling lies and making it up?

You seem to be the only one implying that.