Evidence the PJ followed up on issues raised via the British liaison officers

[G-Unit]

witnesses that I know of that dealt with the British Police are George Burke Brooks, Jayne Jensen & Annie Wiltshire, Moyes.
"Regarding the content of the attached email from British Authorities, with particular focus with respect to the statement by Michael Terrence Wright, in the international letter of request which is being implemented by the Leicestershire Police, on the 6th of May, 2007, in Praia da Luz, a pizza kitchen worker, of British nationality and originally from Liverpool, commented to that witness that her father, George, had seen a man carrying a child, in the early hours of May 4th of 2007. He does not know if George contacted the authorities about this."
British witnesses: 'We saw two blond men on balcony next to Madeleine apartment'
By FIONA BARTON, DAN NEWLING and VANESSA ALLEN

Last updated at 15:55 31 December 2007



"In an exclusive interview, Jayne Jensen and Annie Wiltshire told how they saw two blond men in their 30s, standing on the balcony of an empty apartment only a couple of doors away from the McCanns' flat in Praia da Luz."

"Although the two sisters contacted Portuguese police within hours of Madeleine's disappearance, their evidence was ignored for six months.

The women met police three times within 24 hours, tried to find out who the strangers were themselves and made several follow-up phone calls to the authorities.

But it was not until six weeks ago that a formal statement was finally taken.

The two women, both divorcees from Maidstone, Kent, spent 11 hours with British police officers providing details of their evidence and later met private detectives from Metodo 3, the agency employed by the McCanns to find their daughter.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-504950/British-witnesses-We-saw-blond-men-balcony-Madeleine-apartment.html#ixzz58rp4wZQa

British holidaymakers Paul and Susan Moyes told the Sun Online how officers asked them about a mystery man and woman while questioning them about what they remembered from the night Maddie went missing on May 3, 2007.
The retired accountant said: "The Met police came here about two years ago and both times they came into our house.

"The first time they interviewed us in separate rooms and took our DNA and that visit lasted more than an hour.

"The second visit was about three months later and lasted more than an hour and that was to pursue a lead and to make sure we were convinced on our timeline.

"The lead was that a couple had climbed over the fence and the back garden wall and they asked if that was us. It wasn't.""

Did any of these people get timely visits from the PJ?

There is no evidence as far as I know that George Burke, Jane Jensen and Annie Wiltshire ever spoke to the British Police.

[Carana]

Anne Guedes "On the 5th of May there were 6 PO from the LC present in PDL : the inspectors Caroline Burrows, Eleanor Johnson, Michael Graham, Neil Holden, Jim Mc Garvey and Stephen Markley.
Cartas Rogatorias Vol V Pages 7-14"
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2163.msg71923#msg71923 Carana corrects her.

Stephen was a little helpful http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2163.msg71949#msg71949

" :From a link.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/19-Sep8/NOTW-14-09-08.htm

km's diaries.

'MONDAY, MAY 14: I slept well last night after a not very good end of the day, frustration with the FLO (Portuguese police family liaison officer) asking me where would my little M be.'

Now was this just the Portuguese officer, or were UK representatives there as well ?"

I didn't "correct" her... I was asking for her to substantiate her claim.

This was prior to the release of the UK police post-mortem, which still doesn't quite clarify the matter.
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Strategic-debrief-operation-task-2009.pdf

[Carana]

There is no evidence as far as I know that George Burke, Jane Jensen and Annie Wiltshire ever spoke to the British Police.

I haven't either... but then there could have been a last-minute flutter over what should be included in the open files from the UK side or not, particularly in view of the fact that they, via a lawyer, appear to have gone ballistic at the idea that their informal sharing of confidential info could have ended up in a PT tabloid.

[G-Unit]

I haven't either... but then there could have been a last-minute flutter over what should be included in the open files from the UK side or not, particularly in view of the fact that they, via a lawyer, appear to have gone ballistic at the idea that their informal sharing of confidential info could have ended up in a PT tabloid.

I'm looking for evidence, and there's none. There are a few reasons why that may be;

no statements were taken
the British police lost them
the British police filed them in HOLMES2 and didn't tell the PJ
the British police withheld them
the British police gave them to the PJ and they lost them

Take your pick, they're all possible imo.

[Carana]

I'm looking for evidence, and there's none. There are a few reasons why that may be;

no statements were taken
the British police lost them
the British police filed them in HOLMES2 and didn't tell the PJ
the British police withheld them
the British police gave them to the PJ and they lost them

Take your pick, they're all possible imo.

How about that documents filed under information provided by the UK wasn't included on the CD?

[jassi]

Would I be correct in assuming that anything on Holmes would have been unavailable to PJ once LP withdrew its presence in Portugal ?

[G-Unit]

How about that documents filed under information provided by the UK wasn't included on the CD?

As I said, many possibilities but no evidence. Therefore we can't assume, speculate or guess what the truth is.

[Carana]

As I said, many possibilities but no evidence. Therefore we can't assume, speculate or guess what the truth is.

I agree, but the possibilities that you listed only concerned the UK side, not any potential situations concerning what ended up on the CD.

[Alice Purjorick]

Would I be correct in assuming that anything on Holmes would have been unavailable to PJ once LP withdrew its presence in Portugal ?

Probably!

[Robittybob1]

That’s when the statements were made as far as I can see...

Are you saying that in the sense that that is when you think they made first contact with the PJ?  As if they were poor witnesses and they held onto the vital clues for a year before saying anything?

[Robittybob1]

The role of an FLO in the UK is twofold. They support and inform the family but they also report back to the investigation if they learn anything of interest. In the case of 'the vision' by a friend of a friend of an aunt, Markley made a statement about it and the British police seem to have been involved rather than the Portuguese police. Were the FLO's reporting to their own superiors or to the PJ?

Is that in the file about the vision?

[Robittybob1]

I'm looking for evidence, and there's none. There are a few reasons why that may be;

no statements were taken
the British police lost them
the British police filed them in HOLMES2 and didn't tell the PJ
the British police withheld them
the British police gave them to the PJ and they lost them

Take your pick, they're all possible imo.

All those ideas give us great confidence this case will be solved.

[Robittybob1]

As I said, many possibilities but no evidence. Therefore we can't assume, speculate or guess what the truth is.

Well we have the McCanns  themselves giving the FLO information that doesn't appear to get passed on or was it just ignored?
The Jensen Wiltshire sisters actually complain about it. 

[John]

Well we have the McCanns  themselves giving the FLO information that doesn't appear to get passed on or was it just ignored?
The Jensen Wiltshire sisters actually complain about it.

Undoubtedly a lot of information passed to the various police officers was never documented for one reason or another, that is why I keep pointing out that Amaral and his detectives were privy to a lot more stuff than ever appeared in the files.

There tends to be a lot of secrecy between police forces too so I would also suggest that the PJ never shared every detail they came across with Leicestershire Police and vice versa.

[G-Unit]

Is that in the file about the vision?

Yes. The statement by Markley is in English and hasn't been translated to Portuguese. His statement says that the British police checked out 'Kate's boat', not the PJ. Markley approached Glen Pounder to check this boat out, and he mentions that Glen told him the name of the British police officer who is 'now dealing with it'.

It seems to me that only when the matter had been dealt with by the British police was the evidence handed to the PJ for filing. That suggests that the FLO's role was not necessarily to report to the PJ.