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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #285 on: March 19, 2018, 03:00:36 PM »
Well the propaganda certainly seems to have worked.

The McCanns never asked for a reconstition in the early days or at any other time. A decision was made within the PJ hierarchy that a reconstition would not be feasible. Of course if you have a cite verifying your claim it would clear the matter up.

The McCanns never asked for the PJ to have the twins blood tested. Again if you have a cite for your claim it would be helpful.

Deniability was the watchword of the McCann campaign then as it is now. Always sending ‘a source’, ‘a pal’ or their spokesperson to do their dirty work meant the McCanns could say what they liked without getting their hands dirty.


Indeed. I have long suspected that the parents were concerned about their reputations from 1st moment, and went straight into the nasty world of blaming and demolishing everyone and anyone who even tired to discuss other theories, or offer help which didn't include money making ideas. which I find very strange -as  a mother I would want ALL and very theory looked at. AND as I work in health I would automatically expect to be a suspect of some wrong doing  AND being the person who I am, I would be disgusted with myself with self hating for years for letting my beautiful 3 years old daughter be........
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #286 on: March 19, 2018, 04:21:00 PM »

Indeed. I have long suspected that the parents were concerned about their reputations from 1st moment, and went straight into the nasty world of blaming and demolishing everyone and anyone who even tired to discuss other theories, or offer help which didn't include money making ideas. which I find very strange -as  a mother I would want ALL and very theory looked at. AND as I work in health I would automatically expect to be a suspect of some wrong doing  AND being the person who I am, I would be disgusted with myself with self hating for years for letting my beautiful 3 years old daughter be........
Have you ever walked in her shoes?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #287 on: March 19, 2018, 05:31:21 PM »
Have you ever walked in her shoes?

Is it necessary to go through the same set of circumstances as someone to know how you would react yourself? I don't think so.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #288 on: March 19, 2018, 05:40:57 PM »
Is it necessary to go through the same set of circumstances as someone to know how you would react yourself? I don't think so.
Well people can behave differently when actually faced with a crisis, than what they might have imagined they would.
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Offline Erngath

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #289 on: March 19, 2018, 05:41:21 PM »
Is it necessary to go through the same set of circumstances as someone to know how you would react yourself? I don't think so.

I disagree.
One can imagine, think, assume how one would react if being in the same circumstance to someone experiencing a tragic\ traumatic event but the reality of dealing with the trauma/ tragedy may present in one  not having the same decisive, level headed reactions as one might have anticipated.
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #290 on: March 19, 2018, 05:58:34 PM »
I disagree.
One can imagine, think, assume how one would react if being in the same circumstance to someone experiencing a tragic\ traumatic event but the reality of dealing with the trauma/ tragedy may present in one  not having the same decisive, level headed reactions as one might have anticipated.

In my opinion the life changing event of finding one's eldest child missing from bed must be among the greatest tragedies imaginable.  I truly do feel great sympathy for those who apparently are incapable of understanding that.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #291 on: March 19, 2018, 06:01:56 PM »
Well the propaganda certainly seems to have worked.

The McCanns never asked for a reconstition in the early days or at any other time. A decision was made within the PJ hierarchy that a reconstition would not be feasible. Of course if you have a cite verifying your claim it would clear the matter up.

The McCanns never asked for the PJ to have the twins blood tested. Again if you have a cite for your claim it would be helpful.

Deniability was the watchword of the McCann campaign then as it is now. Always sending ‘a source’, ‘a pal’ or their spokesperson to do their dirty work meant the McCanns could say what they liked without getting their hands dirty.
what "dirty work" specifically are you accusing the McCanns of delagating?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #292 on: March 19, 2018, 06:17:36 PM »
I disagree.
One can imagine, think, assume how one would react if being in the same circumstance to someone experiencing a tragic\ traumatic event but the reality of dealing with the trauma/ tragedy may present in one  not having the same decisive, level headed reactions as one might have anticipated.

It's not about reacting to trauma, it's about the guilt a parent feels if their choices harm their child.
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Offline Erngath

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #293 on: March 19, 2018, 06:26:41 PM »
It's not about reacting to trauma, it's about the guilt a parent feels if their choices harm their child.

The sad fact is that parents can make wrong choices which do result in their child coming to harm.
How awful it must  be for those parents.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #294 on: March 19, 2018, 06:34:56 PM »
The sad fact is that parents can make wrong choices which do result in their child coming to harm.
How awful it must  be for those parents.

There's a big difference between making a wrong choice and abject stupidity imho.
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Offline Erngath

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #295 on: March 19, 2018, 06:44:04 PM »
There's a big difference between making a wrong choice and abject stupidity imho.

Not if you are the parent who has made the wrong choice, whether through abject stupidity or not!
The suffering and guilt would still be hard to live with.



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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #296 on: March 19, 2018, 06:46:50 PM »
There's a big difference between making a wrong choice and abject stupidity imho.
The law exists to punish those who make criminally bad or stupid decisions.  In this case legally speaking the McCanns actions were neither.  That being said what in your opinion is the difference between a wrong choice and and abject stupidity?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #297 on: March 19, 2018, 07:28:01 PM »
The law exists to punish those who make criminally bad or stupid decisions.  In this case legally speaking the McCanns actions were neither.  That being said what in your opinion is the difference between a wrong choice and and abject stupidity?

Well let's see...  *%87   there's going out night after night leaving three toddlers alone in an unlocked apartment for starters and even when one of the children alerted to the fact that they were awake and howling for daddy.
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Offline Erngath

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #298 on: March 19, 2018, 07:36:38 PM »
Well let's see...  *%87   there's going out night after night leaving three toddlers alone in an unlocked apartment for starters.

There was a recent case here where an English tourist decided to go out for a walk in Glencoe. Sadly for her,  she made a wrong decision but for some it was abject stupidity!

The result of her wrong decision/abject stupidity resulted in the mountain rescue having to be called in, at heavens knows what expense and tragically she was found dead.

Wrong decision versus abject stupidity ?
I prefer to think that at the moment she decided to go for a walk she felt it was safe to do so.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Simple Question.
« Reply #299 on: March 19, 2018, 07:42:51 PM »
There was a recent case here where an English tourist decided to go out for a walk in Glencoe. Sadly for her,  she made a wrong decision but for some it was abject stupidity!

The result of her wrong decision/abject stupidity resulted in the mountain rescue having to be called in, at heavens knows what expense and tragically she was found dead.

Wrong decision versus abject stupidity ?
I prefer to think that at the moment she decided to go for a walk she felt it was safe to do so.

Whichever it was subsequent feelings of guilt don't come into the equation.
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