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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2018, 11:06:26 AM »
It didn't and in my opinion that is because of failure in the law ... but not to worry ... it may have been slow to take off but the serious nature of on line abuse is at last being recognised in England and Wales.  In my opinion a situation which is long overdue.

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What motivates such malice towards a child for which this group pretends to demand justice while interfering assiduously in every vehicle capable of providing that justice ... makes me wonder if they think the Portuguese OG is actually going to read a twenty page catalogue of delusion before consigning it to the Paiva file.  Or is it just another of their meaningful but meaningless gestures.

You seem to condemn others view of a failure in the law to prosecute those who IMO were guilty of child neglect.

Again you conflate a poor opinion of the McCanns with malice towards Madeleine.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2018, 12:02:13 PM »
You seem to condemn others view of a failure in the law to prosecute those who IMO were guilty of child neglect.

Again you conflate a poor opinion of the McCanns with malice towards Madeleine.

It all depends on how one interprets "a poor opinion" of a missing child's parents when it is used to justify straining every sinew to organise campaign after campaign against their valiant efforts to help their daughter.
Not even letting up when Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria really are leaving no stone unturned as this 'latest theory' twenty page rehash of the hate of nearly eleven years wings it way to the Portuguese AG.

What motivates these individuals?  Is it fear that Madeleine might actually be found?  If they claim to have Madeleine's best interests at heart ... why aren't they content to let SY and the PJ get on with their jobs?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2018, 12:12:37 PM »
It all depends on how one interprets "a poor opinion" of a missing child's parents when it is used to justify straining every sinew to organise campaign after campaign against their valiant efforts to help their daughter.
Not even letting up when Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria really are leaving no stone unturned as this 'latest theory' twenty page rehash of the hate of nearly eleven years wings it way to the Portuguese AG.

What motivates these individuals? Is it fear that Madeleine might actually be found? If they claim to have Madeleine's best interests at heart ... why aren't they content to let SY and the PJ get on with their jobs?

Why should it be? 
Almost nobody has any serious commitment to this case, post anonymously and therefore lose nothing if Madeleine was to turn up alive at some future date.
No one is influencing OG, whatever they think or post.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2018, 12:28:17 PM »
If the Oporto PJ team are in the process of, or already have, presented their case for prosecution to the AG, would the PJ be obliged to investigate the evidence contained in the Research Group's report before the AG could make a decision on the case?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2018, 12:50:02 PM »

Those who believe The McCanns, will not be shamed if The McCanns are proved to have been involved.

Those who don't believe The McCanns could well be seem differently.

Offline jassi

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2018, 12:52:41 PM »
As we are all, or almost all anonymous, it makes not a jot of difference.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2018, 01:03:28 PM »
I know you weren't asking me, but I'm amazed that anybody can be sufficiently obsessed to be bothered producing it.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2018, 12:26:49 AM by John »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2018, 01:32:15 PM »
I know you weren't asking me, but I'm amazed that anybody can be sufficiently obsessed to be bothered producing it.

I have to agree with you on this.  But it is probably a copy and paste job of all of the trash which was produced in the past.
But since anyone who even remotely tried to question any of it was banned long ago then they have completely lost touch with the reality of logistics.

I prefer not to speculate on the obsession since it is a bit beyond me.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2018, 01:34:51 PM »
My opinion of the report? See my post #51. No-one, in my opinion, should take it upon themselves to interfere in police matters. That includes all those who think they know better than the police whether it includes identifying, investigating or solving crime.

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Offline Brietta

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2018, 02:34:44 PM »
I know you weren't asking me, but I'm amazed that anybody can be sufficiently obsessed to be bothered producing it.

The description 'discussion forum' suggests that we can all join with anyone and about anything, so in my opinion you should feel free and welcome to do that ... particularly as your comment is on topic!

Obviously I haven't read the twenty page tome but coming from the stable it does I doubt if anything it contains could be loosely termed 'new'.
As it has been almost eleven years in the making I think obsession is the perfect word to used to describe it and like you, I am bemused about their motivation for doing so.  Then almost everything they do bemuses me.

What do you think they hope to achieve?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2018, 02:44:39 PM »
The description 'discussion forum' suggests that we can all join with anyone and about anything, so in my opinion you should feel free and welcome to do that ... particularly as your comment is on topic!

Obviously I haven't read the twenty page tome but coming from the stable it does I doubt if anything it contains could be loosely termed 'new'.
As it has been almost eleven years in the making I think obsession is the perfect word to used to describe it and like you, I am bemused about their motivation for doing so.  Then almost everything they do bemuses me.

What do you think they hope to achieve?

They want The McCanns hanged, drawn and quartered, preferably in public.  In My Opinion, of course.

Offline jassi

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2018, 02:51:38 PM »
The description 'discussion forum' suggests that we can all join with anyone and about anything, so in my opinion you should feel free and welcome to do that ... particularly as your comment is on topic!

Obviously I haven't read the twenty page tome but coming from the stable it does I doubt if anything it contains could be loosely termed 'new'.
As it has been almost eleven years in the making I think obsession is the perfect word to used to describe it and like you, I am bemused about their motivation for doing so.  Then almost everything they do bemuses me.

What do you think they hope to achieve?

I really don't know. What is it with people who send their documents to the police in the belief that any notice will be taken of them.
Bit like prowling around PDL taking photographs and measurements all over the place. What do they expect to achieve ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2018, 03:34:44 PM »
I really don't know. What is it with people who send their documents to the police in the belief that any notice will be taken of them.
Bit like prowling around PDL taking photographs and measurements all over the place. What do they expect to achieve ?

Definitely plenty of scope there for discussion on two or three fronts but limiting it to discussion of the current twenty pager (I believe some folk would refer to that as a book!) like you, neither can I fathom what they think they are doing.

In my opinion, if this group had any credibility at all, they have blown it with one fell swoop.  I doubt the AG will be over the moon about these amateurs presuming to know better than the Policia Judiciaria.  But that apart, it is the timing of this latest venture which I find intriguing ... why now?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2018, 05:46:04 PM »
Definitely plenty of scope there for discussion on two or three fronts but limiting it to discussion of the current twenty pager (I believe some folk would refer to that as a book!) like you, neither can I fathom what they think they are doing.

In my opinion, if this group had any credibility at all, they have blown it with one fell swoop.  I doubt the AG will be over the moon about these amateurs presuming to know better than the Policia Judiciaria.  But that apart, it is the timing of this latest venture which I find intriguing ... why now?
The Portuguese were saying they were going to keep their investigation going even if SY stop theirs so it makes sense to involve the Portuguese rather than the UK half.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2018, 06:01:01 PM »
The Portuguese were saying they were going to keep their investigation going even if SY stop theirs so it makes sense to involve the Portuguese rather than the UK half.
I think you will find the portuguese have been approached because SY are considered to be complicit in a cover up