Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk

[Miss Taken Identity]

I agree, the focus changed from looking for a little girl who got out of an unlocked apartment to chasing a ghost only after Tanner belatedely decided to add her tuppence worth.

Yes that was a bit of a thing was it not. Is this woman totally for real? Her friend screams her child is missing JT stands by watching them all search THEN later decides to mention an abductor leaving the scene with Maddie.
What sort of people are they at all?

[Angelo222]

It's in the final  report... Woke and wandered highly unlikely

Clearly they got that one completely wrong.  The retired senior British detectives who reviewed the case in detail concluded that the woke and wandered theory was extremely credible.

[Angelo222]

Yes that was a bit of a thing was it not. Is this woman totally for real? Her friend screams her child is missing JT stands by watching them all search THEN later decides to mention an abductor leaving the scene with Maddie.
What sort of people are they at all?

Could be that Tanner saw crecheman walking about with a child in his arms much later than the 9.15 claimed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well, never mind the tens of thousands who were watching the weather in PDL  the parent swere confused.
Kate left Maddie tucked up inside the covers as it was a cold night

Gerry saw Maddie on his toilet visit lying on the top of the bed outside the covers where HE left her as it was a warm night..

Hot n cold took on a new meaning... One expects  one to do the hokey cockey and turn around tadah!

Could we keep to the topic which is the theory that the Last Photograph couldn't have been taken on the 3rd according to this latest "research" because allegedly the sun never came out and therefore no one would have been by the pool or wearing sunhats?

[Mr Gray]

Clearly they got that one completely wrong.  The retired senior British detectives who reviewed the case in detail concluded that the woke and wandered theory was extremely credible.

They didn't have all the information the investigation had....so it's,simply your belief they got it wrong....nothing more.

Colin Sutton never reviewed the case in detail.. He, said he, would.. But he didnt

[Robittybob1]

Could we keep to the topic which is the theory that the Last Photograph couldn't have been taken on the 3rd according to this latest "research" because allegedly the sun never came out and therefore no one would have been by the pool or wearing sunhats?

Who took the photo? Was it Kate?  Does she ever admit to doing that?  Did she have her camera with her on that day?

[Robittybob1]

Could we keep to the topic which is the theory that the Last Photograph couldn't have been taken on the 3rd according to this latest "research" because allegedly the sun never came out and therefore no one would have been by the pool or wearing sunhats?

I would not agree with you that the topic is just restricted to the so called last photo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I would not agree with you that the topic is just restricted to the so called last photo.

No but it is a central plank of the so-called evidence presented by these so-called researchers

[slartibartfast]

In your opinion, hopefully.

No, on the balance of probability.

[slartibartfast]

Could we keep to the topic which is the theory that the Last Photograph couldn't have been taken on the 3rd according to this latest "research" because allegedly the sun never came out and therefore no one would have been by the pool or wearing sunhats?

Please avoid trying to moderate, the topic is the latest theory which includes many things including the weather.

[Robittybob1]

No, on the balance of probability.

What does that mean? 

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/B/BalanceofProbabilities.aspx

"Balance of Probabilities Definition:
Burden of proof in civil trials.
Related Terms: Reasonable Doubt, Burden of Proof, Trial
 
Also known as preponderance of evidence.

The common distinction is made with the burden of truth in a criminal trial, which is beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil trial, one party's case need only be more probable than the other.

The corollary of this is the rare occurrence when the evidence is evenly balanced. In that case, victory goes to the defendant as the burden of proof is with the plaintiff, who initiates legal proceedings.

The threshold a party's evidence must attain in order for that party to be successful at trial.

A court of law commences a trial with no knowledge; hence the blindfold on the iconic statue of Lady Justice.

Lady Justice also has a set of scales in her hands, as in the scales of justice.

Each party presents the evidence to the court and slowly the scales begin to tip. At the end of the trial, the winner is the party which has tipped the scale.

[Mr Gray]

What does that mean? 

http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/B/BalanceofProbabilities.aspx

"Balance of Probabilities Definition:
Burden of proof in civil trials.
Related Terms: Reasonable Doubt, Burden of Proof, Trial
 
Also known as preponderance of evidence.

The common distinction is made with the burden of truth in a criminal trial, which is beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil trial, one party's case need only be more probable than the other.

The corollary of this is the rare occurrence when the evidence is evenly balanced. In that case, victory goes to the defendant as the burden of proof is with the plaintiff, who initiates legal proceedings.

The threshold a party's evidence must attain in order for that party to be successful at trial.

A court of law commences a trial with no knowledge; hence the blindfold on the iconic statue of Lady Justice.

Lady Justice also has a set of scales in her hands, as in the scales of justice.

Each party presents the evidence to the court and slowly the scales begin to tip. At the end of the trial, the winner is the party which has tipped the scale.

ive used the term quite a lot...abduction can be proved...on the balance of probabilities...mean only 51%. Psters continually talk about proof without defining what level of proof they are referring to

[Robittybob1]

ive used the term quite a lot...abduction can be proved...on the balance of probabilities...mean only 51%. Psters continually talk about proof without defining what level of proof they are referring to

I wonder how one calculates that.  Is it a calculation or just an argument? 

[Mr Gray]

I wonder how one calculates that.  Is it a calculation or just an argument?

Exactly the same as it's done in a court of law....

[slartibartfast]

I wonder how one calculates that.  Is it a calculation or just an argument?

In Davel’s case I would say it was an argument as he has never produced any calculations.