Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk

[Mr Gray]

And speaking from my personal experience, they are both wrong.

I don't agree with the MMRG findings.

Neither do I have evidence of an abduction, hence I cannot be described as a supporter or a believer.

And that's the difference.

It may well be that supporters or believers get banned.  I wouldn't know about that.

From a quick scan of the file sent to the Portuguese AG, it is not likely to lead to a re-evaluation of the evidence.  I need to add an IMO to this assertion.

so sil uses the terms...supporter and beleiver....and then baulks when the term sceptic is used...

[Mr Gray]

It isn’t difficult, identify a group (baddies) with nasty characters, create arguments about why those nasty characters are wrong (and nasty) and hence the Group (baddies), suggest that some reasonable and sensible people are part of the Group (baddies) and hey presto those people are nasty...

Not rocket science.

There ae basically two groups...those who support the mccanns and those who are sceptical of the mccanns. Im a sceptic when it comes to the alerts and have no problem with the word. I dont see why others have aproblem

[Vertigo Swirl]

There ae basically two groups...those who support the mccanns and those who are sceptical of the mccanns. Im a sceptic when it comes to the alerts and have no problem with the word. I dont see why others have aproblem

I was just thinking that perhaps we should reverse the labels for a bit: sceptics and supporters of the theory of parental involvement, just to shake things up abit.

[Vertigo Swirl]

so sil uses the terms...supporter and beleiver....and then baulks when the term sceptic is used...

I find the term "believer" quite insulting tbh.

[Angelo222]

There ae basically two groups...those who support the mccanns and those who are sceptical of the mccanns. Im a sceptic when it comes to the alerts and have no problem with the word. I dont see why others have aproblem

They would have been better concentrating on what occurred post disappearance and more specifically with Halligen and Metodo 3.

[Brietta]

I find the term "believer" quite insulting tbh.

Just as much so in my opinion is "the faithful".  As adults do we really require any such terminology ... particularly when quite often the intention in using it is derision.

[Mr Gray]

They would have been better concentrating on what occurred post disappearance and more specifically with Halligen and Metodo 3.

 
I think thats all in your imagination......but you seem to want to introduce it to every thread...you said you were going to contact the PJ about it several months ago...I take it you havent

[Brietta]

They would have been better concentrating on what occurred post disappearance and more specifically with Halligen and Metodo 3.

I don't think there should have been any question of the parents of a missing child being put in the situation of having to employ private detectives to carry out a police duty.
Since the police weren't looking for a live child when the case was archived and prior to that the first investigation had the bit between the teeth of investigating suspects and not a live child; with the second investigation clearing up as much mess as possible and retrieving usable information from the first; what on earth were the parents to do?

They had the money donated by well wishers ... it could have sat in a bank gathering interest when there was still interest to be accrued ... or it could have been used to actively pursue their daughter's case and what had become of her.
I don't think there is any room to criticise her parents for doing what they could to find Madeleine.  I think the criticism lies in the fact they had to.

[slartibartfast]

There ae basically two groups...those who support the mccanns and those who are sceptical of the mccanns. Im a sceptic when it comes to the alerts and have no problem with the word. I dont see why others have aproblem

I disagree, there are a wide range of people with different opinions. To put them in two groups is far too simplistic. For example TB and his follows are not sceptics IMO, they are not inclined to question or doubt the McCanns, they are believers in an alternate truth.

[Brietta]

I disagree, there are a wide range of people with different opinions. To put them in two groups is far too simplistic. For example TB and his follows are not sceptics IMO, they are not inclined to question or doubt the McCanns, they are believers in an alternate truth.

Are these "believers in an alternate truth" attempting to proselyte by their membership of other fora, perhaps even this one?

[Angelo222]

I disagree, there are a wide range of people with different opinions. To put them in two groups is far too simplistic. For example TB and his follows are not sceptics IMO, they are not inclined to question or doubt the McCanns, they are believers in an alternate truth.

Is that another way of saying that he's looking for revenge having been publicly humiliated and hung out to dry by the court?

[Mr Gray]

I disagree, there are a wide range of people with different opinions. To put them in two groups is far too simplistic. For example TB and his follows are not sceptics IMO, they are not inclined to question or doubt the McCanns, they are believers in an alternate truth.

A bizarre post... You are suggesting TB does not doubt the McCanns...

[G-Unit]

Are these "believers in an alternate truth" attempting to proselyte by their membership of other fora, perhaps even this one?

In my opinion they join other forums to have their say, just like anyone else.

It appears to me that there are areas which people agree on, although their reasons may differ. The McCann's supporters and the MMRG share doubts about the Smith's evidence and motives, for example.

I admire Carana's dedication in responding to these 60 questions, and I mostly agree with Carana's conclusions.

[slartibartfast]

Are these "believers in an alternate truth" attempting to proselyte by their membership of other fora, perhaps even this one?

Have they proselytised you?

[Brietta]

Have they proselytised you?

Having had experience of "rough wooing"  ... I would reply in the affirmative.