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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #570 on: March 25, 2018, 02:30:09 PM »
In some countries you are considered alive until there has been no proof of being alive for 7 years at which time you can be legally considered dead.

Which countries... Certainly not the uk

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #571 on: March 25, 2018, 02:37:08 PM »
Which countries... Certainly not the uk
It was something Mum told me years ago, and I thought it would be similar in the UK.  It is a law from memory.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declared_death_in_absentia#United_Kingdom > says 7 years.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #572 on: March 25, 2018, 02:40:15 PM »
It was something Mum told me years ago, and I thought it would be similar in the UK.  It is a law from memory.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declared_death_in_absentia#United_Kingdom > says 7 years.
Have another look and you will see how the law actually  applies

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #573 on: March 25, 2018, 02:45:44 PM »
Have another look and you will see how the law actually  applies
Well will the explanation in Wikipedia be good enough? 
"A person may be legally declared dead (declared death in absentia or legal presumption of death) despite the absence of direct proof of the person's death, such as the finding of remains (e.g., a corpse or skeleton) attributable to that person. Such a declaration is typically made when a person has been missing for an extended period of time and in the absence of any evidence that the person is still alive – or after a much shorter period but where the circumstances surrounding a person's disappearance overwhelmingly support the belief that the person has died (e.g., an aeroplane crash)."
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #574 on: March 25, 2018, 02:48:32 PM »
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Offline barrier

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #575 on: March 25, 2018, 03:52:38 PM »
I'm simply speculating... But is it a human right to be considered alive and findable if there is no real evidence to the lattter..

It may well might be,but SY in saying they have no evidence either way doesn't encourage it.
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Offline Carana

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #576 on: March 25, 2018, 03:56:26 PM »
Well will the explanation in Wikipedia be good enough? 
"A person may be legally declared dead (declared death in absentia or legal presumption of death) despite the absence of direct proof of the person's death, such as the finding of remains (e.g., a corpse or skeleton) attributable to that person. Such a declaration is typically made when a person has been missing for an extended period of time and in the absence of any evidence that the person is still alive – or after a much shorter period but where the circumstances surrounding a person's disappearance overwhelmingly support the belief that the person has died (e.g., an aeroplane crash)."

"May" being the operative word. Why would the parents of a missing 3-year-old child wish to declare her dead?


Offline barrier

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #577 on: March 25, 2018, 03:58:46 PM »
"May" being the operative word. Why would the parents of a missing 3-year-old child wish to declare her dead?

It'll be up to the court to decide that if she's still a ward surely.
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Offline jassi

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #578 on: March 25, 2018, 03:58:55 PM »
"May" being the operative word. Why would the parents of a missing 3-year-old child wish to declare her dead?

Has anyone asked them to do that?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #579 on: March 25, 2018, 03:59:39 PM »
Has anyone asked them to do that?

Not as far as I know.

Offline jassi

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #580 on: March 25, 2018, 04:01:28 PM »
Not as far as I know.

So why suggest it?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #581 on: March 25, 2018, 04:05:06 PM »
It may well might be,but SY in saying they have no evidence either way doesn't encourage it.

But the Portuguese are

Offline barrier

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #582 on: March 25, 2018, 04:06:18 PM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #583 on: March 25, 2018, 04:08:07 PM »
Are they?

Amaral said he can prove it

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #584 on: March 25, 2018, 04:12:13 PM »
 (&^&
Well will the explanation in Wikipedia be good enough? 
"A person may be legally declared dead (declared death in absentia or legal presumption of death) despite the absence of direct proof of the person's death, such as the finding of remains (e.g., a corpse or skeleton) attributable to that person. Such a declaration is typically made when a person has been missing for an extended period of time and in the absence of any evidence that the person is still alive – or after a much shorter period but where the circumstances surrounding a person's disappearance overwhelmingly support the belief that the person has died (e.g., an aeroplane crash)."

The court may declare a missing person legally dead but only at the request of a small section of people... Family..
This is for things such as instance payouts... The court cannot do it on it's own and it is not proof of death