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Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #600 on: March 26, 2018, 07:12:33 AM »
It's fascinating that his rights to express an opinion outweighed the missing child's right to be considered alive and findable, and also the rights of her parents not to be defamed in such a cruel manner.

He repeated what the investigation said in September 2007, he didn't make it up. Is there a right to be considered to be alive? Which article says that? The McCanns accused him, but failed to prove their case.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #601 on: March 26, 2018, 08:09:51 AM »
He repeated what the investigation said in September 2007, he didn't make it up. Is there a right to be considered to be alive? Which article says that? The McCanns accused him, but failed to prove their case.
He did make an awful lot of it up IMO .  His theory is entirely unsubstantiated imo .  If there is not a legally enshrined right to be considered alive then I guess we can all go round claiming anyone we like has actually died the minute they go missing.  Save so much money on having to bother looking for them!
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #602 on: March 26, 2018, 08:16:46 AM »
He repeated what the investigation said in September 2007, he didn't make it up. Is there a right to be considered to be alive? Which article says that? The McCanns accused him, but failed to prove their case.
That statement in Sept 2007 was just a matter of opinion, it wasn't fact, because next year the case was archived with no evidence against the McCanns.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #603 on: March 26, 2018, 08:17:46 AM »
He repeated what the investigation said in September 2007, he didn't make it up. Is there a right to be considered to be alive? Which article says that? The McCanns accused him, but failed to prove their case.

He added things that were not in the files.... Article 8 covers the right to a private life... That's Maddies private life

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #604 on: March 26, 2018, 08:36:29 AM »
He added things that were not in the files.... Article 8 covers the right to a private life... That's Maddies private life

Though they may well have been discussed and accepted in the investigation IMO.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #605 on: March 26, 2018, 09:03:14 AM »
Though they may well have been discussed and accepted in the investigation IMO.

Celestial teapot...

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #606 on: March 26, 2018, 09:13:20 AM »
Celestial teapot...

I know it was always one of your favourite terms but you appear to have forgotten what it means. Amaral’s book says that it was about what the investigation thought. So that is evidence for you.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #607 on: March 26, 2018, 11:52:46 AM »
He did make an awful lot of it up IMO .  His theory is entirely unsubstantiated imo .  If there is not a legally enshrined right to be considered alive then I guess we can all go round claiming anyone we like has actually died the minute they go missing.  Save so much money on having to bother looking for them!

He made a lot of it up in your opinion? Is that a wild guess or can you identify these inventions for us?

You posted 'the missing child's right to be considered alive' as if there was such a right. It seems you don't know if such a right exists or not, so an 'imo' should have been used in my opinion.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #608 on: March 26, 2018, 11:58:40 AM »
He added things that were not in the files.... Article 8 covers the right to a private life... That's Maddies private life

Madeleine's claim was rejected by the judge of the first instance.

27th April 2016

IV. fully dismiss the requests, made in the same action, by the claimants  MADELEINE MCCANN, SEAN MICHAEL MCCANN and  AMELIE EVE MCCANN against the defendant  GONCALO AMARAL and of those claims acquit the defendant.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #609 on: March 26, 2018, 12:02:13 PM »
He made a lot of it up in your opinion? Is that a wild guess or can you identify these inventions for us?

You posted 'the missing child's right to be considered alive' as if there was such a right. It seems you don't know if such a right exists or not, so an 'imo' should have been used in my opinion.
I'd say if someone says "If there is not a legally enshrined right to be considered alive then I guess we can all go round claiming anyone we like has actually died the minute they go missing."  That is clearly not an opinion but rather a search for an answer.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #610 on: March 26, 2018, 12:16:06 PM »
A police force has no right to consider a person dead and can be proven to be dead when the evidence does not support that view... A possible area for an ECHR claim

Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #611 on: March 26, 2018, 12:17:15 PM »
I'd say if someone says "If there is not a legally enshrined right to be considered alive then I guess we can all go round claiming anyone we like has actually died the minute they go missing."  That is clearly not an opinion but rather a search for an answer.

The opinion I was referring to was expressed in post #557;

"the missing child's right to be considered alive and findable"

posted as if it was a fact that such a right exists.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #612 on: March 26, 2018, 12:22:08 PM »
The opinion I was referring to was expressed in post #557;

"the missing child's right to be considered alive and findable"

posted as if it was a fact that such a right exists.

So you are of the opinion that right does not exist... The right to be considered alive. If there is no proof to the contrary
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #613 on: March 26, 2018, 12:37:53 PM »
He repeated what the investigation said in September 2007, he didn't make it up. Is there a right to be considered to be alive? Which article says that? The McCanns accused him, but failed to prove their case.

you asked:
Is there a right to be considered to be alive? Not if she is dead- what would be the point? *%87

 Which article says that?
None. a person cannot legally state they are dead, if they are not,and vice versa.
Ask any insurance company ^*&&

The McCanns accused him, but failed to prove their case.
 re this claim for compensation on behalf of MBM from GA. The McCanns would have to prove the child was alive to claim for such monies- because if they claimed, and she turned up dead, then the money would go to????.

As I mentioned at the time. this was a chancers greed at grabbing money on behalf of someone who's mortal state was unknown, and therefore,  no judge would grant any claim on their behalf.

Article 8 states that you have to be alive to have  a right to a private life...
1. It was her parents who  removed that right by taking her on a global media chase...
2. she is having a private life,if alive, because no one knows where she is!  and if she is dead then she is   certainly having  privcacy as no one can find her!
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #614 on: March 26, 2018, 12:40:27 PM »
He did make an awful lot of it up IMO .  His theory is entirely unsubstantiated imo .  If there is not a legally enshrined right to be considered alive then I guess we can all go round claiming anyone we like has actually died the minute they go missing.  Save so much money on having to bother looking for them!

There is nothing wrong in thinking if someone goes missing they may have died in an accident or other reason. KATE LOOKED IN THE BINS in case her daughter was dumped in one!.. ok next.
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