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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #630 on: March 26, 2018, 02:54:48 PM »
So you are of the opinion that right does not exist... The right to be considered alive. If there is no proof to the contrary

Why not just quote the article from the convention?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #631 on: March 26, 2018, 03:01:12 PM »
Why not just quote the article from the convention?

It isn't that simple and that's, why I have not claimed it as fact... Defamation is, covered by article 8 but it is not mentioned in the convention.. Could be article 2.. Right to life... What's interesting  is, that interim measures, are, allowed under 2 and 8....and, amaral has gone awfully quiet....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #632 on: March 26, 2018, 03:13:21 PM »
It isn't that simple and that's, why I have not claimed it as fact... Defamation is, covered by article 8 but it is not mentioned in the convention.. Could be article 2.. Right to life... What's interesting  is, that interim measures, are, allowed under 2 and 8....and, amaral has gone awfully quiet....

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The Court will only issue an interim measure against a Member State where, having reviewed all the relevant information, it considers that the applicant faces a real risk of serious, irreversible harm if the measure is not applied.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #633 on: March 26, 2018, 03:37:16 PM »


If maddie is still alive.. Any delay in finding her... Caused by the SCs support of amarals theory could damage the search and therefore be a threat to her life

Offline Carana

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #634 on: March 26, 2018, 03:41:16 PM »
As they don't when she died, how does that work?

For the moment, it's not clear if she died or not.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #635 on: March 26, 2018, 03:44:37 PM »
As they don't when she died, how does that work?

You make the point that sine [some] have been convinced  of her death by what they have read
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #636 on: March 26, 2018, 04:03:17 PM »
If maddie is still alive.. Any delay in finding her... Caused by the SCs support of amarals theory could damage the search and therefore be a threat to her life

That would be a very hard point to argue when there are two full scale investigation taking place as we speak.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #637 on: March 26, 2018, 04:09:39 PM »
That would be a very hard point to argue when there are two full scale investigation taking place as we speak.

The most important point is cooperation  from the people of Portugal but they have mostly been convinced that maddie us dead... So it's not a, hard point to argue

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #638 on: March 26, 2018, 05:39:57 PM »
There is nothing wrong in thinking if someone goes missing they may have died in an accident or other reason. KATE LOOKED IN THE BINS in case her daughter was dumped in one!.. ok next.
It is definitely an option to be considered seriously.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #639 on: March 26, 2018, 05:43:18 PM »
It is definitely an option to be considered seriously.
No one is, saying death is not a, possibility but amaral wants to tell people it's, a certainty.. Imo

Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #640 on: March 26, 2018, 05:55:43 PM »
The Portuguese courts have supported amarals right to promote maddies death

They decided that he was entitled to give his opinion.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #641 on: March 26, 2018, 05:59:29 PM »
They decided that he was entitled to give his opinion.

The ruling was not about giving an opinion in general... It referred to this particular opinion..
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #642 on: March 26, 2018, 06:11:37 PM »
The ruling was not about giving an opinion in general... It referred to this particular opinion..
When was it an opinion and when is it presented as fact?  Personally I was surprised they (SC Judges) allowed his book and the video to be considered an opinion, when I'm sure I heard him (GA) say it was a fact.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #643 on: March 26, 2018, 06:14:56 PM »
The most important point is cooperation  from the people of Portugal but they have mostly been convinced that maddie us dead... So it's not a, hard point to argue

I think the McCanns tried to argue that the book damaged the search for Madeleine, but they failed to prove it.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Latest theory lands on Portuguese AG's desk
« Reply #644 on: March 26, 2018, 06:15:51 PM »
He made a lot of it up in your opinion? Is that a wild guess or can you identify these inventions for us?

You posted 'the missing child's right to be considered alive' as if there was such a right. It seems you don't know if such a right exists or not, so an 'imo' should have been used in my opinion.
Well for a start he states in his conclusion as a fact that Madeleine died in the apartment.
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"You can't reason with the unreasonable".