According to some, there is certainly circumstantial evidence of abduction.

[Robittybob1]

IYO

"So DP didn't see because he didn't venture deep enough into the room" was a form of asking you if that is what you were implying with that quote.  Is that the impression DP was trying to portray?

[G-Unit]

"So DP didn't see because he didn't venture deep enough into the room" was a form of asking you if that is what you were implying with that quote.  Is that the impression DP was trying to portray?

On the way from the Tapas to the apartment there was conversation.

Err also obviously the, the, the issue with the, the shutters had been raised, was brought up err you know on the way up as well
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

So he was told, but didn't look when he got there.

we, we, I'm sure we went into the apartment, just looked and you know, incredulously you know well where, err where could she be, you know, you know we just looked in the obvious err places
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

[Alice Purjorick]

Are we now to take newspaper tittle tattle as verifiable cites, notwithstanding what M Rowley had to say about them.

Mark Rowley:There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are nonsense.

Why not? It fits in with the general topography as you might say.
Starting with the Jane Tanner sighting then following the not insubstantial trail of breadcrumbs along the highways and byways until ten years later we reach "The Lady in Purple", what do we really have?
An amalgam of gossip,assumptions,inferences and speculation. IMO of course.

[barrier]

Why not? It fits in with the general topography as you might say.
Starting with the Jane Tanner sighting then following the not insubstantial trail of breadcrumbs along the highways and byways until ten years later we reach "The Lady in Purple", what do we really have?
An amalgam of gossip,assumptions,inferences and speculation. IMO of course.

At least with the HO insisting that the amount being spent is a secret and SY refusing to discuss what is being investigated then the stories will hopefully stop.

[Robittybob1]

On the way from the Tapas to the apartment there was conversation.

Err also obviously the, the, the issue with the, the shutters had been raised, was brought up err you know on the way up as well
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

So he was told, but didn't look when he got there.

we, we, I'm sure we went into the apartment, just looked and you know, incredulously you know well where, err where could she be, you know, you know we just looked in the obvious err places
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

That is weird; who told David Payne about the shutters?

[Alice Purjorick]

At least with the HO insisting that the amount being spent is a secret and SY refusing to discuss what is being investigated then the stories will hopefully stop.

Oh I don't know about that. When I was a young person I was a disciple of The Mad Magazine. Ca 1960 it did a skit on the film "The Alamo" directed by John Wayne. It depicts Wayne saying [approximatively]"To produce a film that is historically accurate requires a lot of research time and money, so we did the next best thing: we lied".

[Brietta]

Oh I don't know about that. When I was a young person I was a disciple of The Mad Magazine. Ca 1960 it did a skit on the film "The Alamo" directed by John Wayne. It depicts Wayne saying [approximatively]"To produce a film that is historically accurate requires a lot of research time and money, so we did the next best thing: we lied".

Och ... I don't know if I would go so far as to say Amaral and co "did the next best thing:" but in my opinion he certainly left quite a bit of clearing up behind for the present Portuguese and British investigators to catch up with.

How come he missed out on following through on the abundance of evidence which has been driving them since Madeleine's case was reopened?

[G-Unit]

That is weird; who told David Payne about the shutters?

If he was told 'on the way up' the only person who could have told him was Kate. He went into the room far enough to see Madeleine's empty bed, but didn't look at the window;

I noticed that the bed was empty that Madeleine was sleeping in.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

[G-Unit]

Och ... I don't know if I would go so far as to say Amaral and co "did the next best thing:" but in my opinion he certainly left quite a bit of clearing up behind for the present Portuguese and British investigators to catch up with.

How come he missed out on following through on the abundance of evidence which has been driving them since Madeleine's case was reopened?

Are you saying that this evidence was in the possession of the PJ before October 2007? If so, do you have any cites to support your opinion?

[barrier]

Och ... I don't know if I would go so far as to say Amaral and co "did the next best thing:" but in my opinion he certainly left quite a bit of clearing up behind for the present Portuguese and British investigators to catch up with.

How come he missed out on following through on the abundance of evidence which has been driving them since Madeleine's case was reopened?

Driving on down the road to nowhere.

[faithlilly]

Och ... I don't know if I would go so far as to say Amaral and co "did the next best thing:" but in my opinion he certainly left quite a bit of clearing up behind for the present Portuguese and British investigators to catch up with.

How come he missed out on following through on the abundance of evidence which has been driving them since Madeleine's case was reopened?

Do I need to remind you that Rebelo was coordinator of the case for longer than Amaral. Shouldn’t he shoulder some of the blame if there was any ‘clearing up’ to do ‘ ?

[barrier]

Do I need to remind you that Rebelo was coordinator of the case for longer than Amaral. Shouldn’t he shoulder some of the blame if there was any ‘clearing up’ to do ‘ ?

Seeing as no alleged abductor can be found some one has to take the can.

[Angelo222]

Seeing as no alleged abductor can be found some one has to take the can.

SY are now in the embarrassing position that they have spent a small fortune on a missing girl on the presumption that she was abducted by AN Other yet not a scrap of evidence has ever been produced to support this theory. They are now refusing to disclose how much more public money has been allocated to them...the cover-up has begun imo.

AFAIAC the only circumstantial evidence relates to the woke, wandered and was then abducted theory, everything else is pure fantasy imo.

[faithlilly]

SY are now in the embarrassing position that they have spent a small fortune on a missing girl on the presumption that she was abducted by AN Other yet not a scrap of evidence has ever been produced to support this theory. They are now refusing to disclose how much more public money has been allocated to them...the cover-up has begun imo.

AFAIAC the only circumstantial evidence relates to the woke, wandered and was then abducted theory, everything else is pure fantasy imo.

There is no evidence, even circumstantial, for woke, wondered and abducted.

[Angelo222]

There is no evidence, even circumstantial, for woke, wondered and abducted.

Yes there is.  Two specially trained scent dogs independently followed her fresh trail from the apartment, around the block where it mysteriously stopped at the car park opposite mini reception.  I for one cannot think of another explanation for such a compelling piece of evidence.