According to some, there is certainly circumstantial evidence of abduction.

[barrier]

Yes... Opened by whom

That may come out in court,don't hold your breath expecting a case to get that far though.

[Angelo222]

Post 2.

    No Madeleine fingerprints on (a)the window, frame, glass or shutters ... (b) the front door and presumably the outside knob and inner mechanism were checked. ....(c) The patio door                                                                How could she have walked out via the front door, the patio door or the via the window without leaving fingerprints?

Also no fingerprints found on the outside gate, the child gate.

 

Additionally to no Madeleine fingerprints, no skin, blood or fibres were found at any of these places.

 

Madeleine had to have been carried out, abducted, because of the lack of the above evidence.  With no signs of Madeleine, finger prints etc., on any of the exits she could not have walked out on her own volition

On that basis one could argue that only Kate McCann was ever in that apartment as only her fingerprints were found but we know that is not the case.  The truth is that the missing child could well have made her own way outside where she got into trouble of some sort.

[Angelo222]

An open window and shutter aren't evidence that an abduction has occurred.

We have looked at this previously.  Only Kate McCanns prints were found on the children's bedroom window and that is suggestive that it was she who opened it most probably as a means to look for the child.  Partial memory loss following a sudden trauma is easily explained.

[slartibartfast]

So you accept  it's a ridiculous claim

I agree Grime said 200 case searches.

[Mr Gray]

I agree Grime said 200 case searches.

Amaral said the dogs had solved 200 cases. That isn't even remotely the same and I'm sure you would agree

[slartibartfast]

Yes... Opened by whom

You would have to look for evidence such as fingerprints.

[Mr Gray]

You would have to look for evidence such as fingerprints.

That would not give a definitive answer

[slartibartfast]

rubbish..
amaral claimed he could prove Maddie died in tye apartment...he didnt...fact not opinion..

amaral claimed the two dogs had solved 200 cases...more rubbish...fact not opinion..

I have already provided the cite for both these ridiculous claims

Your ellipses shows an easy opputunity for translation error.

[slartibartfast]

That would not give a definitive answer

Didn’t say it did?

[Mr Gray]

Your ellipses shows an easy opputunity for translation error.

But in this case we have the original Portuguese..... What is patently clear is anaral did not prove death in the apartment as he claimed he would ...  once you introduce translation error you cast doubt on all the other statements where we do not have the original to compare

[ShiningInLuz]

But in this case we have the original Portuguese..... What is patently clear is anaral did not prove death in the apartment as he claimed he would ...  once you introduce translation error you cast doubt on all the other statements where we do not have the original to compare

What IS the original Portuguese?

By the way, for those statements that were taken in Portuguese we have the original Portuguese.

[Mr Gray]

What IS the original Portuguese?

By the way, for those statements that were taken in Portuguese we have the original Portuguese.

we do not have the original statements of the mccanns given in english....
my quote is from a translation from the morais site...do you not trust that..
The main pointmis amaral did not prove death in the aparatment as he claimed...you need to accept reality

[Mr Gray]

Its even better...

00.48 - During the following 50 minutes, I will prove that the child was not abducted, and that she died in the holiday apartment in Praia da Luz.


so amaral THINKS he can prove there was no abduction......

[slartibartfast]

But in this case we have the original Portuguese..... What is patently clear is anaral did not prove death in the apartment as he claimed he would ...  once you introduce translation error you cast doubt on all the other statements where we do not have the original to compare

As translation errors are usually your forte I thought it would be appropriate to use it here.

[Mr Gray]

26.34 – The dogs’ investigation continues. They inspect several vehicles, and they only alert to the car that was hired by the McCanns 23 days after Madeleine’s disappearance. Eddie alerts that the car key and the boot had been in contact with a dead body.

eddie never alerted in the boot.....and grime did not say eddie alerted to a dead body re the car....amarals claims are absolute rubbish