Author Topic: What was the point of the arguido questions asked of Kate and Gerry McCann?  (Read 34637 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

Gerry's arguido questions:   I still think he blew it though.

"--- The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on, as it seemed a long time and he thought that one of children might have woken up. "

I have previously looked into how long the others think Kate was taking and most answers were under 5 minutes.  So why was Gerry getting impatient?  Even if one of the kids had woken up Kate was more than capable of putting the child back to bed.
Gerry I think you failed on that one.
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Offline Robittybob1

Would anyone care to help me understand this bolded part?  "When questioned, he says that he works at the Emergency Room of the hospital where he works every 15 days, however he is not usually called out at night, and if this happens then it is once for 4 days prevention. Kate's specialty is general medicine, and works two days a week. After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as above."
Did he work once every 15 days?
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Offline Brietta

Wold anyone care to help me understand this bolded part?  "When questioned, he says that he works at the Emergency Room of the hospital where he works every 15 days, however he is not usually called out at night, and if this happens then it is once for 4 days prevention. Kate's specialty is general medicine, and works two days a week. After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as above."

It is understandable that there has been much concentration on the historic information taken from whatever information there is to hand because there is little or no information coming out from the current investigation.

Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria have gone over the information in fine detail over a number of years independent of each other and both discovered huge gaps in the information emanating from the start of the investigation till it was archived.
In particular both police forces confirmed that many witnesses were never interviewed at the time ... " -  terá identificado testemunhas que nunca foram inquiridas enquanto o processo esteve a decorrer, até Julho de 2008.
Isso mesmo é confirmado num comunicado divulgado esta."
" - will have identified witnesses who were never interviewed while the proceedings were in progress, until July 2008."

It is abundantly clear that having raked over the cold coals beloved of forum myth neither Scotland Yard nor the PJ have expressed an interest in Kate or Gerry ... in fact the contrary.
"A reanálise do processo volta a centrar a investigação na tese de rapto, a principal linha seguida pela Scotland Yard, que também abriu uma investigação ao desaparecimento de Maddie. A equipa da PJ do Porto terá ficado convicta dessa tese perante a observação cuidada de toda a informação existente no processo."
"The reanalysis of the case returns to focus the investigation on the kidnapping thesis, the main line followed by Scotland Yard, who also opened an investigation into the disappearance of Maddie. The PJ do Porto team was convinced of this thesis in view of the careful observation of all the information in the process."

Therefore the two investigation which have as their focus the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann have studied and moved on from where we were at the time of disasters such as the arguido debacle which took the focus off Madeleine and which took two reviews years later to get it back.

We don't know much of what is going on for the simple reason that the current process both Portuguese and British is being conducted under Portuguese secrecy laws which this time round are being strictly adhered to and respected.
"O inquérito vai continuar a correr na Procuradoria da República de Portimão, que, segundo a nota, requereu ao juiz de instrução que o inquérito fique sujeito ao segredo de justiça."
"The investigation will continue to run at the Prosecutor's Office of the Republic of Portimão, which, according to the statement, asked the investigating judge that the investigation be subject to the secrecy of justice."
https://www.publico.pt/2013/10/24/sociedade/noticia/ministerio-publico-reabre-processo-do-desaparecimento-de-maddie-1610207

In my opinion all well worth taking on board as we pore over every nuance of an investigation which took the wrong course and whose adherents can't see the wood for the trees ... SY and the PJ have looked at it all already and as a result both are working resolutely on trying to solve what they consider to be Madeleine's abduction.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline sadie

Gerry's arguido questions:   I still think he blew it though.

"--- The third check was made by Kate at around 22:00. He does not know how long it was before Kate returned, but he does remember that shortly before she returned he was thinking of going to see what was going on, as it seemed a long time and he thought that one of children might have woken up. "

I have previously looked into how long the others think Kate was taking and most answers were under 5 minutes.  So why was Gerry getting impatient?  Even if one of the kids had woken up Kate was more than capable of putting the child back to bed.
Gerry I think you failed on that one.
Are you pointing the finger at Gerry?

Offline Robittybob1

Are you pointing the finger at Gerry?
Being concerned about how long Kate took has always worried me.  Gerry can take 15 minutes himself but worries if she is coming up to 5 minutes.  It doesn't sound like a healthy situation.
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Offline jassi

Being concerned about how long Kate took has always worried me.  Gerry can take 15 minutes himself but worries if she is coming up to 5 minutes.  It doesn't sound like a healthy situation.

It seems a valid question. Kate had eaten her food so it wasn't as if it was going cold in her absence. She too might have gone t'lavvy or met an acquaintance en route.
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Offline sadie

Being concerned about how long Kate took has always worried me.  Gerry can take 15 minutes himself but worries if she is coming up to 5 minutes.  It doesn't sound like a healthy situation.
Gerry stopped and had a chat with Jez en route.

As Jassi says
-snip-  Kate had eaten her food so it wasn't as if it was going cold in her absence. She too might have gone t'lavvy or met an acquaintance en route.

And it all depends on what going to the lavvie involved for each of thyem.   Gerry seems very protective of Kate.  He is her rock, maybe because he is so protective?

Offline John

Gerry seems very protective of Kate.  He is her rock, maybe because he is so protective?

There could be a very good reason for that imo.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Robittybob1

Gerry stopped and had a chat with Jez en route.

As Jassi says
And it all depends on what going to the lavvie involved for each of thyem.   Gerry seems very protective of Kate.  He is her rock, maybe because he is so protective?
Did they have much contact that day?  The night before Gerry had left her at the Tapas bar and walked off and left her there alone and she came back later and decided to sleep on her own.  Next night she is left to look after the kids while he is playing tennis.  Kate is allowed to go running on her own. 
All that and he gets concerned she is away for 5 minutes that feels like 10.  He makes her go, timed to the minute but doesn't know how long she actually took for her check.  It doesn't add up to me.
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Offline Mr Gray

Would anyone care to help me understand this bolded part?  "When questioned, he says that he works at the Emergency Room of the hospital where he works every 15 days, however he is not usually called out at night, and if this happens then it is once for 4 days prevention. Kate's specialty is general medicine, and works two days a week. After the birth of the twins, Kate did not work for a year, on maternity leave, and currently works part-time as above."
Did he work once every 15 days?

That's an amazing find rob... You are obviously  much more perceptive than I gave you credit for... So why was, Gerry only working once every 15 days... Very strange

Was Gerry on restricted duties.... Was he under investigation
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Did they have much contact that day?  The night before Gerry had left her at the Tapas bar and walked off and left her there alone and she came back later and decided to sleep on her own.  Next night she is left to look after the kids while he is playing tennis.  Kate is allowed to go running on her own. 
All that and he gets concerned she is away for 5 minutes that feels like 10.  He makes her go, timed to the minute but doesn't know how long she actually took for her check.  It doesn't add up to me.

Oh Rob, quite a lot of things don't add up. the DP visit, which he can't recall why he went or what Kate was wearing but recalled the angel children???... oh so many things.
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Offline Robittybob1

Oh Rob, quite a lot of things don't add up. the DP visit, which he can't recall why he went or what Kate was wearing but recalled the angel children???... oh so many things.
That was odd.
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Offline barrier

That's an amazing find rob... You are obviously  much more perceptive than I gave you credit for... So why was, Gerry only working once every 15 days... Very strange

Was Gerry on restricted duties.... Was he under investigation

Doesn't say once every fifteen days though does it.
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Offline Carana

That's an amazing find rob... You are obviously  much more perceptive than I gave you credit for... So why was, Gerry only working once every 15 days... Very strange

Was Gerry on restricted duties.... Was he under investigation

On gardening leave, just popping in twice a month to deal with emergencies?

Is it feasible that his regular work as a cardiologist wasn't in the emergency ward, but that he did two shifts a month in one? Or is that too far-fetched?