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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #225 on: December 29, 2019, 03:17:53 PM »
...'effect'... 8((()*/

My funeral  8(8-)) ... and JB living to 88.  ?8)@)-)

Thanks I even pondered 'effect' or 'affect'  8)><(
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline APRIL

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #226 on: December 29, 2019, 10:22:44 PM »
Thanks I even pondered 'effect' or 'affect'  8)><(


"Effect" is about inanimate objects. "Affect" is about emotions. Of course, it's perfectly possible that the effect on an inanimate object could cause a person to affected, don't you think? 8(0(*

Offline Caroline

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2019, 12:37:59 PM »
The Times carried a whole page article yesterday dedicated to the new series. 

CC was quoted and appears to have endorsed the series.  He also talks about his forthcoming book which I found a little surprising given his reluctance to get involved with CAL a few years back and his obvious objections to all the rubbish on social media that his young daughter can't help stumble across.  But I guess his daughter is not so young now so maybe this has changed his mind somewhat.

Hopefully the series, 6 x 1 hour slots, will be better than the low-budget hour long stuff of the past but I can't see it being fact based since Kris Mrska said the series will not include a re-enactment on the basis no one survived to know what happened! He obviously isn't aware of soc reconstruction based on ballistics and blood stain analysis!

Which is not fact based, it's theoretical.
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Offline Caroline

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2019, 12:40:20 PM »
JB has made all the running for 33 years... it's time to redress the balance!  8((()*/

Waterstones are selling ISOTRE for £9.99. Don't think it will contain anything new, other than glowing endorsements from Freddie and Cressida.  Lucky that I bought a mint hardback copy of the original from 'world of books' on eBay for £1.50 several years ago.

https://www.waterstones.com/book/in-search-of-the-rainbows-end/colin-caffell//9781529309164?awaid=3787&utm_source=redbrain&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=css&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn_jE84vb5gIVybHtCh2rGAPFEAQYASABEgL5YvD_BwE&awc=3787_1577630586_f388e662bebcf730718d03bd50b25d3d

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-Search-of-the-Rainbows-End-The-Inside-Story-o-by-Caffell-Colin-Hardback/392170396965?epid=86310936&hash=item5b4f2d5d25:g:Yk0AAOSwSpZd0C6Z

Wishful thinking on the ebay seller  @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline adam

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2019, 03:34:23 PM »
The Times carried a whole page article yesterday dedicated to the new series. 

CC was quoted and appears to have endorsed the series.  He also talks about his forthcoming book which I found a little surprising given his reluctance to get involved with CAL a few years back and his obvious objections to all the rubbish on social media that his young daughter can't help stumble across.  But I guess his daughter is not so young now so maybe this has changed his mind somewhat.

Hopefully the series, 6 x 1 hour slots, will be better than the low-budget hour long stuff of the past but I can't see it being fact based since Kris Mrska said the series will not include a re-enactment on the basis no one survived to know what happened!  He obviously isn't aware of soc reconstruction based on ballistics and blood stain analysis!

A pity there will be no re-enactment.

Not difficult to do, based on the available evidence. CAL created a scenario.

The makers were being lazy. They have a 6 part series & will be using artisic licence some of the time. So I would not complain if the massacre was not exactly how I envisaged it.

It would not have been too gruesome for TV after 9pm. People are killed all the time in films & dramas. A good reconstruction would have been a first & unforgettable drama gold.

Seems like it's going to be a 'Mid Summer Murders' type drama. Padded out over 6 hours . Using a famous crime as publicity. But I will be watching the first episode.

Offline Myster

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #230 on: December 30, 2019, 05:46:12 PM »
Wishful thinking on the ebay seller  @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*
'world of books' are normally reasonably-priced sellers, with a huge warehouse full of old titles. I bought quite a few from them over the years, but this smacks of outrageous profiteering... not that anyone will be stupid enough to buy it!
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Caroline

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #231 on: January 02, 2020, 06:53:58 PM »
'world of books' are normally reasonably-priced sellers, with a huge warehouse full of old titles. I bought quite a few from them over the years, but this smacks of outrageous profiteering... not that anyone will be stupid enough to buy it!

You would hope!

Offline Myster

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #232 on: January 03, 2020, 06:06:32 PM »
You would hope!
One reader of the new version was so disgusted with the unexpurgated offensive letters he sent to Colin that she's trying to offload it asap...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-Search-of-the-Rainbows-End-by-Colin-Caffell-author/303430315668?hash=item46a5db2e94:g:wOAAAOSwUMpeDyBu

I also noticed in the full cast list that David Boutflour is referred to only as David, whereas others are given their full surnames.  He obviously doesn't want to be associated with it.

A brief review of the first episode... https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2020-01-03/white-house-farm-review/
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #233 on: January 04, 2020, 12:18:49 PM »
Yet another rambling potty-mouthed podcast... if you can be bothered.  Carbolic at the ready...

https://audioboom.com/posts/7464451-94-white-house-farm-murders-part-1
Wrong conclusion... sorry gals, this isn't Cluedo!  Part 2...

https://audioboom.com/posts/7464452-95-white-house-farm-murders-part-2
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline puglove

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #234 on: January 04, 2020, 11:58:41 PM »
One reader of the new version was so disgusted with the unexpurgated offensive letters he sent to Colin that she's trying to offload it asap...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-Search-of-the-Rainbows-End-by-Colin-Caffell-author/303430315668?hash=item46a5db2e94:g:wOAAAOSwUMpeDyBu

I also noticed in the full cast list that David Boutflour is referred to only as David, whereas others are given their full surnames.  He obviously doesn't want to be associated with it.

A brief review of the first episode... https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2020-01-03/white-house-farm-review/

I've always felt most sorry for Nevill, he was obviously a bit of a dude and a legend, but as I've got older I've empathised with June, getting comfort and support from religion when an adored child goes a bit tits and off the radar. I really hope that this drama underlines how Nevill and June both fought like tigers, even when they were terribly injured and frightened. Neither of them gave up until they could fight no more. And I also hope that it shows how Bamber stole something that was never his, the sweetness and promise of Sheila's lovely boys. The boys that he wrote off as "burdens" as he was packing up their stuff in black bin bags as if they were rubbish. Just before he tried to hawk pictures of his sister as though she meant nothing to him. Which, of course, she didn't.

I genuinely think that this drama/series will be the final nail in Bamber's coffin and he will rot away his final years with Philpott, Huntley, Bridger and all the other pieces of crap who stole children's lives away. He could never admit what he did, with the hope of parole, because his grim, shitty life would literally not be worth living. When Bamber's dead (he doesn't look great) the world will be a better, brighter, bird-song, sunrise place.
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline puglove

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #235 on: January 05, 2020, 12:42:53 AM »
Come Wednesday, there will be a spike in interest in the blue forum. They will see Mike's filth, NGB's weird crap, barmy Bronwyn's stupid rubbish, ILB's c-word, lookout's bitter ignorance.

Bamber supporters.
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Myster

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #236 on: January 05, 2020, 12:28:54 PM »
When this series has finished and all the fuss died down, Bamber's bunch of hybristophiliacs will still be pleading innocence and spreading BS amongst the gullible.

Bring it on Colin... Bamber's had fruitless years in the spotlight, now it's your time to shine...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7852251/Pain-murdered-twins-father-milk-teeth-collected-DNA-evidence.html

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scottish-mail-on-sunday/20200105/282432761082070
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Nicholas

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #237 on: January 05, 2020, 01:26:39 PM »
My meetings with Jeremy Bamber, the White House Farm murderer 4th Jan 2020

As an ITV drama recounts the infamous story of Jeremy Bamber, author and Telegraph journalist, Roger Wilkes tells how he was asked to help prove his innocence

“I first met Jeremy Bamber in the late summer of 1991, as I was pondering a book about his case. To my tentative first letter, Bamber had replied briskly, pointing out that I was not the first journalist to approach him about his story and asking me not to contact him again unless I was prepared to help. Convicted for the merciless shooting of five members of his family at their farmhouse in Essex in 1985, he wanted to commission a new ballistics report but had no money to pay for it. Without it there would be no prospect of a full appeal hearing, and no co-operation for me. I offered a deal; he agreed to meet.

In the visiting room at Gartree Prison in Leicestershire, in his blue sweatshirt, jeans and trainers, he was still strikingly handsome. The long dark hair of his pre-trial photos had been cropped short but prison pallor had yet to cloud his features and he returned my gaze and handshake firmly. Even before I ventured a conversational icebreaker, he told me that he did not murder his family, and that some day he would prove it.

In 1986 Jeremy Bamber had been found guilty of one of the most notorious crimes of the century – shooting dead his adoptive parents, Nevill and June Bamber, his sister Sheila, also adopted, and her six-year-old twin sons in the dead of a harvest night. Photographs of the crime scene still trouble me. The little boys had been shot in their beds in their sleep, one still sucking his thumb.

No wonder, then, that at first the police believed Jeremy when he blamed the killings on Sheila, who was mentally ill. From the start, Jeremy’s story was that his father had telephoned him in the small hours saying that Sheila had gone mad and had a gun. But a month later, Jeremy Bamber himself was arrested, questioned, tried and convicted on five counts of murder. He is now serving a whole life term.

The famous photograph at the Bamber funeral, as Jeremy appears to buckle under the weight of grief CREDIT: PA
During our handful of meetings, Bamber was always friendly and struck me as a man of immense charm, but in time I came to see him as highly persuasive and manipulative; as the twins’ father, Colin Caffell, warned me, Bamber is “an extremely seductive and charismatic person”. At the outset I was perfectly prepared to believe he was innocent, not least because that would have made a better book, especially if I could have helped him prove it. But in the end I could not.

As the adopted son of a wealthy farmer, Bamber stood to gain nearly half a million pounds (about £1.3 million today) from the death of his family. Nevill and June tenanted the 300-acre White House Farm outside the Regency village of Tolleshunt D’Arcy. Within days of their deaths, Bamber was selling off family heirlooms and planning how to spend his inheritance.

But why? When I spoke to those who knew him, it emerged that Jeremy Bamber disliked his parents, was bitterly jealous of his sister and hated his life in the village, tied to the farm. Perhaps his good looks were in themselves a kind of curse. At 24, Bamber was better-looking even than the actor Freddie Fox who plays him in the new ITV drama that begins on Wednesday night. He resented the fact that his parents had supported Sheila to live and work in London as a model before her health broke. It seems he, too, craved a more glamorous life.

At the time of their deaths, the Bambers were under huge stress. Sheila’s marriage had broken down and she was back at White House Farm with her twins. She was taking powerful medication to control bouts of psychosis in which she sometimes believed she was possessed by the Devil.

Jeremy was another worry. Employed on the farm and encouraged to manage the family caravan site to give him more income and status, he made it clear that he was bored and frustrated by the work. He’d been set up in his own cottage in a neighbouring village but was always pleading poverty, piling pressure on his father.

Nevill confided to his secretary that he was afraid that Jeremy might harm him one day. The year before the murders, after reports of intruders at the caravan park, Jeremy began patrolling the site himself, armed with a shotgun. When an uncle warned him he might shoot someone with it, Bamber smirked and remarked: “I could easily kill my parents.”

But many young men resent their families as part of a natural impulse to strike out on their own. Nevill and June had adopted Jeremy when he was only six months old. Perhaps his adoption made any sense of alienation more acute. The fact was that Bamber was ill-equipped to provide for himself and needed his work on the farm. Privately educated, he had failed his A-levels. His parents funded a gap year in Australia and New Zealand where he took an expensive scuba diving course but he always returned home, looking for funds.

Some thought Bamber did what he did because of a serious head injury he had suffered as a boy. He’d fractured his skull sliding down the stairs on a tin tray at White House Farm. Other notorious killers, Fred West among them, have hit their heads in accidents. Although as one forensic psychiatrist pointed out, thousands of people bump their heads and never hurt a soul.

At the heart of this complex story lies one simple, pivotal truth. Either Jeremy Bamber murdered his family or Sheila did. Jeremy himself ruled out any other killer. He told police his father had telephoned him to say that Sheila had gone berserk and had a gun. The Bambers were murdered with a .22 semi-automatic rifle fitted with a silencer, which was later found with blood in it in a cupboard under the stairs. The jury at Bamber’s trial was told the blood in the silencer was Sheila’s, and that, Bamber claims, is what drove them to conclude that she couldn’t possibly have been the killer. The blood sample was tested to destruction, so there is nothing to return to now.

When Bamber asked me to consult Prof Leon MacDonnel in New York, then the world’s leading authority on blood evidence, the photographs of Sheila’s body convinced MacDonnel that, like the others, she had been murdered. Sheila was shot not once, but twice under the chin. Scenes from the kitchen of the farm show Nevill Bamber slumped in a chair by the Aga after a fight to the death where he’d grappled with his killer and been bludgeoned with the butt of the rifle.

The walls were smeared with blood, the breakfast dishes, carefully laid out by June before she went to bed, lay smashed and strewn across the floor. Could slightly-built Sheila have done this? All 25 bullets fired during the killer’s rampage through White House Farm had hit their mark. Everyone I spoke to who knew Sheila, told me she had never shown any interest in guns. Jeremy, by contrast, had been a crack shot with a rifle since his days in the Army Cadets at school. Apart from her bullet wounds, Sheila had no other injuries and not one of her perfectly-manicured nails had been broken.

A year after our first meeting, my book almost finished, I was convinced that Jeremy Bamber had killed them all. To think otherwise would mean accepting that Sheila was the killer and that another young woman, Julie Mugford, Jeremy Bamber’s girlfriend at the time, caused an innocent man to be jailed for life as an act of spite and revenge.

Julie is in the famous photograph at the funeral, holding Jeremy’s arm as he appears to buckle under the weight of grief. She went to the police when Jeremy dumped her to tell them he had confessed to planning and carrying out the murders. Julie said that at the funeral, Jeremy joked that he hoped the cameras would catch his best side. “I should have been an actor,” he’d whispered.

So many questions remain, not least why Jeremy Bamber, if he is indeed guilty, continues to work ceaselessly to prove his innocence. He was naturally disappointed with my book and we ceased contact by mutual agreement. Recent pictures show a pallid, overweight, middle-aged man, scholarly in his metal-rimmed glasses, his youthful looks gone. What else can he do but struggle for redemption? He has nothing left to lose.

Blood Relations by Roger Wilkes will be reissued later this year by Robinson
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/life/meetings-jeremy-bamber-white-house-farm-murderer/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline adam

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #238 on: January 05, 2020, 01:47:50 PM »
Did not know Bamber used to patrol the caravan site with a shot gun. Was that allowed?
« Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 03:18:02 PM by adam »

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: ITV Developing A Series Based On The Case Of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #239 on: January 05, 2020, 07:11:35 PM »
Did not know Bamber used to patrol the caravan site with a shot gun. Was that allowed?

It certainly back-fired when he broke in! 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?