Jeremy Bamber - The Campaigner Blog

[John]

Thought MWT's documentary was rather poor. A shotgun FFS? For someone who specialises in investigating abuse of children he seems rather keen to give airtime to a convicted child killer. I thought the purpose of the doc was to advance Bamber's case to appeal, however it ended up balanced and don't forget it was Mick Gradwell and David Boutflour who had the last words.

Mick Gradwell was in no doubt that the original decision was correct. 

[Dillon]

I was told, but unfortunately this is hearsay, that Brett Collins had a brother ( an antigue dealer I think ) who died in suspicious circumstances and Brett might have been implicated. Brett and Jeremy seem to have been as thick as thieves and worked together to maximise assets from June and Nevill's estate. There has long been suggestions, but again hearsay, that Jeremy was involved in criminality in New Zealand. With Brett and others ? Did they plan the killings at WHF together ? This needs a dedicated researcher with good NZ contacts I guess . Probably a blind alley, but it would have been easier for Jeremy to have committed these murders with an accomplice .

[John]

I was told, but unfortunately this is hearsay, that Brett Collins had a brother ( an antigue dealer I think ) who died in suspicious circumstances and Brett might have been implicated. Brett and Jeremy seem to have been as thick as thieves and worked together to maximise assets from June and Nevill's estate. There has long been suggestions, but again hearsay, that Jeremy was involved in criminality in New Zealand. With Brett and others ? Did they plan the killings at WHF together ? This needs a dedicated researcher with good NZ contacts I guess . Probably a blind alley, but it would have been easier for Jeremy to have committed these murders with an accomplice .

There is this link to the stolen watches.  Susie Batesby mentions it in her police statement too.

Just reading the Wiki article on bamber.

It states that while in New Zealand he reportedly broke into a jewellers, stealing two expensive watches, one of which he gave to his girlfiend back in England. He also boasted according to Powell that he had been involved in smuggling Heroin overseas.

[Tim Invictus]

For the record Jackie I too wish there was someway Bamber could be innocent; it would certainly feel more worthwhile to be fighting a MOJ case than to be trying to keep a man locked up for life.  If it hadn't been for the appalling abuse directed at Sheila and Bamber's surviving victims (relatives) along with good honest coppers like Stan Jones I would never have become involved.

The abuse aimed at good, honest, hardworking people involved with Bamber is nothing less than shameful. Do you still maintain that people often spit in the face of Anne Eaton on the streets of Tolleshunt D'Arcy Jackie?

[Andrea]

I heard that spitting rumour Tim, its all bollocks.
The Eatons and Boutflours are still very respected families.

[Angelo222]

I heard that spitting rumour Tim, its all bollocks.
The Eatons and Boutflours are still very respected families.

I haven't forgotten the nasty things Jackie used to say about Sheila not being a proper model and a failure.

[jackiepreece]

Somebody is misquoting me or getting me mixed up with someone else because as far as I know when Sheila was WELL she was successful even travelling overseas to model.
All Sheila's problems to me related to her being very very ill which was not her fault

[Tim Invictus]

Somebody is misquoting me or getting me mixed up with someone else because as far as I know when Sheila was WELL she was successful even travelling overseas to model.
All Sheila's problems to me related to her being very very ill which was not her fault

Let's not exaggerate Jackie, Sheila was skipping down the lane with her adored twins the day before she was murdered not "very, very ill"!

If Bamber ever does 'come clean' and admit his obvious guilt will you apologise for hounding Anne Eaton, her daughter and the rest of the surviving family?

[jackiepreece]

Tim we will agree to differ on Sheila's health issues.

She had ongoing problems from the illness she had been diagnosed with by experts compounded by the fact her husband had told her he wouldn't take her back because he had found someone else.

It is well documented the mood swings suffered by people with Sheila's condition.

Whatever your stance on who was responsible for the murders at WHF Sheila was obviously suffering badly at times and not coping with life as documented by her last boyfriend.

If more people had understood this including Jeremy, her mother and father and the rest of her family she might still be alive today

None of us know how things panned out on Sheila's last visit that's why we are still discussing it and documentaries are made about it

Was Sheila responsible, was Jeremy responsible, was a third party responsible ??

[Tim Invictus]

I agree that if Sheila hadn't had psychological problems she may well be alive today. Bamber used the fact that "she is a nutter" to concoct his murderous scheme.

The irony is that if Bamber had waited he would be a relatively wealthy country gentleman now rather than a dead man walking!

[Andrea]

Tim we will agree to differ on Sheila's health issues.

She had ongoing problems from the illness she had been diagnosed with by experts compounded by the fact her husband had told her he wouldn't take her back because he had found someone else.

It is well documented the mood swings suffered by people with Sheila's condition.

Whatever your stance on who was responsible for the murders at WHF Sheila was obviously suffering badly at times and not coping with life as documented by her last boyfriend.

If more people had understood this including Jeremy, her mother and father and the rest of her family she might still be alive today

None of us know how things panned out on Sheila's last visit that's why we are still discussing it and documentaries are made about it

Was Sheila responsible, was Jeremy responsible, was a third party responsible ??

No Jack, Jeremy was responsible. Take a good look at the photo of Sheila, do you really think she had wiped out her family? Not a mark on her. Jb had planned this well in advance, he also had plenty of time to get rid of any evidence that connected him to the shooting, his house wasnt searched until a month after he shot them all.

The alleged phonecall put him or sheila in the frame, there was no third party.

[Andrea]

jack, i want to ask you a question, i understand if you dont want to answer, no probs.

Do you ever regret the way you have behaved on forums, or the things you have said/done while supporting bamber? I understand alot of people severed contact with you over certain things. Such as bamber himself and his official campaign team.

[puglove]

Hmmm.

I wonder if Major Marsham ever wishes that he could spend all day, every day grizzling on a forum that he would chew both legs off to moderate, while sending his elderly wife out to work (even on Christmas day)? Him being so "in bred and half-witted" apparently.     >@@(*&)

[jackiepreece]

Andrea whatever anyone thinks or believes I got involved in this case for one reason I believe the conviction could be unsafe. I was not looking for a boyfriend or husband and find it inconceivable you could have a normal relationship started in prison.
In my first letter to Jeremy I made it clear to him I had read about his fan club/bamberettes etc and I was not interested in a man just because he was good looking 25 years ago.
I have his reply I could post at any time when he said he was told he was too old for all that rubbish.
If I had known about Miss Hammond I wouldn't have gone anywhere near the case because I believe so much jealousy came my way because of my connection with Simon McKay, Ngb and MWT.
As soon as I was having progress with the people above people close to the official campaign team who had made contact with me dropped me like a hot potato, obviously thinking I was getting to close to Jeremy.
I never asked to go on the phone list Jeremy asked me.
I have never asked to visit him.
I know what Jeremy thinks about me but nobody else needs to. I was probably more realistic about Jeremy's chances of an winning an appeal during phone calls than most people.
I was quite horrified that the Official Campaign Team kept saying they had all the evidence to free Jeremy because I knew it wasn't true or Jeremy would have been let out on bail.
Because of my apparent 'closeness' to JB some of the Official Campaign team started bad rumours about me on twitter that were COMPLETELY UNTRUE.  I have never said a bad word about Simon McKay.
I have had the most terrible abuse come my way, more than anyone on these forums including home visits and have gone to great lengths to stop this.
That's what you do when the harassment gets unbearable but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
I won't lose too much sleep over the people that have abused me, lied about me and made untrue personal comments about me.
Some things I regret saying but that's what you do when you get pushed into a corner.

Going back to the case I have seen nothing in JB's background character to make me believe he is capable of committing such horrendous murders. So for me he either didn't do it or a third party was responsible.
That is MY opinion

[John]

Somebody is misquoting me or getting me mixed up with someone else because as far as I know when Sheila was WELL she was successful even travelling overseas to model.
All Sheila's problems to me related to her being very very ill which was not her fault

That is the problem about new technologies Jack, there is every chance that what you post is recorded somewhere.  You did indeed ridicule Sheila and what's more I have a copy of it somewhere. 

If I remember correctly you posted something along the lines that Sheila was never a successful model or even a good mother.  I also remember you posting that if you had a gun you would shoot Ann Eaton such was your hate for her.  Do you withdraw those remarks now Jackie?