Author Topic: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?  (Read 13272 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2018, 12:49:20 PM »
Yes.
Are you expecting one of the protagonists you suspect of finally confessing or do you think there is other tangible evidence that has been gathered or still out there to be gathered?  If so, I would be curious to know the nature of such evidence.  We can rule out CCTV can't we?  We can rule out the only known eye-witnesses that suggest ed perhaps it was one of the key protagonists (the police are no longer pursuing this line of enquiry), we can be fairly sure if a raft of new witnesses placing the protagonist in PdL acting suspiciously had come forward then the protagonist in question would have to be made an arguido in order to be questioned about it, something which is unlikely to be achieved without being sensationally leaked to the world's media, a body dug up now is unlikely to contain any forensic clue pointing to the protagonist(s) without there already being a valid reason for it to be there, and so what does that leave us..?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2018, 12:53:19 PM »
Who know's one red top rag was using a family spokesman as saying the funding could even be extended  if needed, they've only just started this tranche for heavens sake.

Star on line for reference.
It means nothing - it's the Star, it's a "could be".  So what?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2018, 01:11:42 PM »
Are you expecting one of the protagonists you suspect of finally confessing or do you think there is other tangible evidence that has been gathered or still out there to be gathered?  If so, I would be curious to know the nature of such evidence.  We can rule out CCTV can't we?  We can rule out the only known eye-witnesses that suggest ed perhaps it was one of the key protagonists (the police are no longer pursuing this line of enquiry), we can be fairly sure if a raft of new witnesses placing the protagonist in PdL acting suspiciously had come forward then the protagonist in question would have to be made an arguido in order to be questioned about it, something which is unlikely to be achieved without being sensationally leaked to the world's media, a body dug up now is unlikely to contain any forensic clue pointing to the protagonist(s) without there already being a valid reason for it to be there, and so what does that leave us..?

A situation where nobody is brought to trial because of insufficient evidence  to gain a conviction.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2018, 01:13:12 PM »
A situation where nobody is brought to trial because of insufficient evidence  to gain a conviction.
I was asking Faithlilly who is convinced we will get a resolution to this case.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2018, 01:23:22 PM »
I was asking Faithlilly who is convinced we will get a resolution to this case.

Consider my reply as a freebie then  ?{)(**
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2018, 02:28:30 PM »
I don't suppose the families of the victims of the Golden State Killer / East Area Rapist ever thought they would find out who committed those atrocious crimes but it now looks like the case has been solved - after 40 years.  Never say never.

As Peter Hogg found to his cost after 8 years, then on the other hand:
Diane Jones 30+ years and counting with no case brought.
Ann Noblett 60 years with no case brought so there is every chance of her sexual assault and murder being a "scot-free" now.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline faithlilly

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2018, 03:20:07 PM »
Are you expecting one of the protagonists you suspect of finally confessing or do you think there is other tangible evidence that has been gathered or still out there to be gathered?  If so, I would be curious to know the nature of such evidence.  We can rule out CCTV can't we?  We can rule out the only known eye-witnesses that suggest ed perhaps it was one of the key protagonists (the police are no longer pursuing this line of enquiry), we can be fairly sure if a raft of new witnesses placing the protagonist in PdL acting suspiciously had come forward then the protagonist in question would have to be made an arguido in order to be questioned about it, something which is unlikely to be achieved without being sensationally leaked to the world's media, a body dug up now is unlikely to contain any forensic clue pointing to the protagonist(s) without there already being a valid reason for it to be there, and so what does that leave us..?

I am expecting an outcome. who that will manifest itself we will all just have to wait and see.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2018, 04:54:37 PM »
I am expecting an outcome. who that will manifest itself we will all just have to wait and see.
Upon what do you pin your expectations other than blind faith?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2018, 04:56:15 PM »
As Peter Hogg found to his cost after 8 years, then on the other hand:
Diane Jones 30+ years and counting with no case brought.
Ann Noblett 60 years with no case brought so there is every chance of her sexual assault and murder being a "scot-free" now.
Maybe the case will be solved, maybe it won't - who knows, it's a daft question to start a thread about in the first place IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2018, 05:59:10 PM »
Maybe the case will be solved, maybe it won't - who knows, it's a daft question to start a thread about in the first place IMO.

And yet 20% of the responses are from you
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2018, 06:08:40 PM »
What makes you think she would even be bothered if she has a new settled life with people she loves?  If you were left alone night after night in an alien environment would you care?
Does that imply she remembers being left alone when she was nearly 4?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2018, 06:14:14 PM »
The probability is that she has no life to remember.
The idea that she is living a life of comfort with some loving family is just fantasy in my opinion.
You still can't rule it out.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2018, 06:23:39 PM »
Every case is different, there was another case a while back of a kidnapped child escaping her captor after many many years in captivity.  Can't remember the precise details but it was longer than 11 years.  Cases can be solved without DNA evidence.
There have been several where the kidnapped child escapes.  Have there been cases where the "adopted" child fully integrates in the family and hence has no need to escape? 

There have been cases where children have been swapped at birth and they don't want to go back with their real parents.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-42743982

Switched at nearly 4 would be an odd situation.
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Offline jassi

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2018, 06:27:24 PM »
You still can't rule it out.

Of course not, until we get the body, but I wouldn't put any money on her turning up alive.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Will we ever find out what happened to Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2018, 06:43:49 PM »
Of course not, until we get the body, but I wouldn't put any money on her turning up alive.
Odds would be 100 million to 1 or something like that.
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