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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2018, 07:23:37 PM »
Quote from: ShiningInLuz on May 08, 2018, 07:14:24 PM
Cite re Lisbon.   *&(+(+

When I get back.... Luz is, similar
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2018, 08:43:23 PM »
Quote from: Davel on May 08, 2018, 07:23:37 PM
When I get back.... Luz is, similar
Another 'I'll cite it later'?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2018, 08:46:07 PM »
Quote from: Davel on May 08, 2018, 06:31:21 PM
Just looked at Google,  Dawn is when the mccannns said they started, searching and that's 6.01...lisbon

Fiona said it was still cold and dark when they left the apartment - she estimated it was between 5 and 6am.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2018, 09:22:10 PM »
Quote from: ShiningInLuz on May 08, 2018, 08:43:23 PM
Another 'I'll cite it later'?

(removed personal remark) I post from my phone... Simply Google... Dawn luz Portugal and you will get the answer... 6.04...on the 9th of may
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 09:25:52 PM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline jassi

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2018, 09:33:45 PM »
Wasn't it still dark when they made their first press statement ? I seem to remember Gerry with a torch.

So when did this searching take place - before or after ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2018, 09:48:06 PM »
Quote from: jassi on May 08, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
Wasn't it still dark when they made their first press statement ? I seem to remember Gerry with a torch.

So when did this searching take place - before or after ?
The press hadn't arrived by the first morning!
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Offline Brietta

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2018, 09:58:09 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on May 08, 2018, 09:48:06 PM
The press hadn't arrived by the first morning!

Certainly not in the numbers who would fly in later.  Just those within easy reach to begin with.

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As the case of missing Madeleine McCann reaches its tenth anniversary, Olive Press editor JON CLARKE – the first journalist on the scene – analyses why her parents were not involved… and recalls the shocking way he ended up accused of being involved.

I RECEIVED the call at 7.15am from the Daily Mail foreign desk. It was a Friday morning as we approached deadline for one of the first editions of the Olive Press, then in its early fledgling stage.

The daughter of a pair of British doctors had gone missing on the Algarve the night before. Could I get over and investigate?

I was on the road half an hour later from Ronda, where we had our office, based out of a cowshed next to my home.

http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2017/05/11/madeleine-mccann-olive-press-editor-talks-first-journalist-scene-10th-anniversary-disappearance/
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2018, 10:03:05 PM »
Quote from: jassi on May 08, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
Wasn't it still dark when they made their first press statement ? I seem to remember Gerry with a torch.

So when did this searching take place - before or after ?

We could always chuck in the old "do you mean astronomical dawn, nautical dawn,civil dawn" including, especially for us oiks, "crack o' sparrerfart dawn"? Why not just round it off to six Ack Emma.....it would be well light by then.

https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/different-types-twilight.html
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2018, 10:15:59 PM »
Quote from: Davel on May 08, 2018, 09:22:10 PM
(removed personal remark) I post from my phone... Simply Google... Dawn luz Portugal and you will get the answer... 6.04...on the 9th of may
Cite for Lisbon still awaited.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2018, 10:22:33 PM »
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2018, 10:33:50 PM »
« Last Edit: May 09, 2018, 12:50:21 AM by John »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2018, 07:52:14 AM »
Quote from: ShiningInLuz on May 08, 2018, 10:15:59 PM
Cite for Lisbon still awaited.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dawn+lisbon&oq=dawn+lisbon&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.4775j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

06:01
Wednesday, 9 May 2018 (WEST)
Dawn in Lisbon, Portugal
https://www.gaisma.com/en/location/lisbon.html

from Kates book it seems dawn is a more accurate time for the beginning of the search
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2018, 08:28:25 AM »
Quote from: Davel on May 09, 2018, 07:52:14 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dawn+lisbon&oq=dawn+lisbon&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.4775j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

06:01
Wednesday, 9 May 2018 (WEST)
Dawn in Lisbon, Portugal
https://www.gaisma.com/en/location/lisbon.html

from Kates book it seems dawn is a more accurate time for the beginning of the search
It would seem dawn happens half an hour before sunrise, who knew?!  I always assumed they were one and the same, I obviously just don’t get up early enough.
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Offline jassi

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2018, 08:34:28 AM »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: So what time is sunrise in Praia da Luz on the 4th May?
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2018, 08:37:10 AM »
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