Author Topic: Will the appointment of Luis Neves have any impact on the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 20911 times)

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Offline Snowgirl

Developments?  I was unaware they have discovered what befell Madeleine McCann.
  One development as I see it  was not one of the persons of interest that OG  requested to interview turned out to be involved. Luis Neves must have been very pleased with that so I can’t see that anything will have changed his mind .

Offline misty

  One development as I see it  was not one of the persons of interest that OG  requested to interview turned out to be involved. Luis Neves must have been very pleased with that so I can’t see that anything will have changed his mind .

I think those statements warrant an "IMO". We have no idea if the SY interviews of several persons of interest & arguidos back in 2014 resulted in them being eliminated from the investigation.

Offline Snowgirl

 So what do you think happened then ? They were interviewed but still considered persons of interest ?

Offline jassi

I think those statements warrant an "IMO". We have no idea if the SY interviews of several persons of interest & arguidos back in 2014 resulted in them being eliminated from the investigation.

You don't think "as I see it" is the same as IMO ?
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Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline barrier

I think those statements warrant an "IMO". We have no idea if the SY interviews of several persons of interest & arguidos back in 2014 resulted in them being eliminated from the investigation.


Rowley 2017 said as much.

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Q: How old were the suspects because I think you interviewed them originally through the Portuguese beginning of July 2014?
 
MR: By the end of the year we were happy to have brought them out and we were moving on to other parts of the investigation.
 
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Offline barrier

I think those statements warrant an "IMO". We have no idea if the SY interviews of several persons of interest & arguidos back in 2014 resulted in them being eliminated from the investigation.

The same could be said of the McCanns,they may not be suspects but no one has ever said they have been eliminated from the investigation.
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Offline misty


Rowley 2017 said as much.

Wasn't that merely referring to the 3 alleged burglars?

Offline misty

So what do you think happened then ? They were interviewed but still considered persons of interest ?

I have absolutely no idea, given that they were all apparently cleared by the original investigation.

Offline barrier

Wasn't that merely referring to the 3 alleged burglars?

Yes,but your post  referred to persons of interest,which they would be rather than witness's like Murat and quite a few others later in 2014.Although this article refers to persons of interest in the same breath as witness.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30115913


This caveat ought be added to anything emanating from the British news outlets imo.


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A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Scotland Yard is not prepared to provide a running commentary."


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Offline misty

Yes,but your post  referred to persons of interest,which they would be rather than witness's like Murat and quite a few others later in 2014.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30115913

I did include "and arguidos" which was the status granted to the 3 burglars & Malinka.

Offline misty

You don't think "as I see it" is the same as IMO ?

It probably is. I apologise to Snowgirl as I hadn't read John's pm about the revised use of IMO. Presumably there will be no further problems when referring to abduction as facts in our opinions.

Offline Robittybob1

I have absolutely no idea, given that they were all apparently cleared by the original investigation.
What makes you think the three suspected burglars were cleared by the original investigation?
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Offline G-Unit

Neves was certainly heavily involved in the McCann case. It was he and Encarnacao who met with the McCanns to update them, not Amaral. It was he and Encarnacao who allegedly interviewed them on 8th August and asked questions which should have been asked only of aguidos. It was him who Bob Small phoned when the McCanns were panicking about being made arguidos. When questioned at Amaral's trial, however, he played down his role;

The Judge asks the witness if he intervened in the criminal process related to Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
LN says he did, but not directly.
 The Judge – What do you mean by "indirectly"?
LN says that, though he went to the Algarve a few times to meet Guilhermino Encarnação, then Director of the PJ in Faro, and Gonçalo Amaral, the operations were performed by Portimão police officers under the direction of his team.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2600.0

Amaral, however, makes it clear in his book. A team from the DCCB came from Lisbon with their director (Neves).
From then on, two deputy national directors (Neves and Encarnacao) would direct the investigation assisted by the coordinator (him).

I think the same thing happened in the Cipriano case too.
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Offline Mr Gray

Neves was certainly heavily involved in the McCann case. It was he and Encarnacao who met with the McCanns to update them, not Amaral. It was he and Encarnacao who allegedly interviewed them on 8th August and asked questions which should have been asked only of aguidos. It was him who Bob Small phoned when the McCanns were panicking about being made arguidos. When questioned at Amaral's trial, however, he played down his role;

The Judge asks the witness if he intervened in the criminal process related to Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
LN says he did, but not directly.
 The Judge – What do you mean by "indirectly"?
LN says that, though he went to the Algarve a few times to meet Guilhermino Encarnação, then Director of the PJ in Faro, and Gonçalo Amaral, the operations were performed by Portimão police officers under the direction of his team.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2600.0

Amaral, however, makes it clear in his book. A team from the DCCB came from Lisbon with their director (Neves).
From then on, two deputy national directors (Neves and Encarnacao) would direct the investigation assisted by the coordinator (him).

I think the same thing happened in the Cipriano case too.

If you listen to what Neves said at amarals trial it is clear why he supported amrals thinking at the time. It seems he too was under the impression that the alerts were very reliable and as good as conformed the previos presence of a cadaver in 5a...no wonder he suspected the McCanns.
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Offline Brietta

The same could be said of the McCanns,they may not be suspects but no one has ever said they have been eliminated from the investigation.
“Neither her parents or any of the members of the group that were with her are either persons of interest or suspects” ~DCI Andy Redwood, Operation Grange
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....