The last video taken of Madeleine McCann.

[Vertigo Swirl]

With the greatest respect Lace it matters not one jot what you believe. Mrs Fenn said it was the 1st and she was there. That you believe something that the evidence doesn’t support may be comforting to you but would not convince a jury.

LOL.  Not being there has never stopped you believing an awful lot that isn't supported by the evidence.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What was what ????

The crying baby in the video is very much good representation of how a distressed child would cry.

‘She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?, ’

Poor child.

If you have any evidence to refute Mrs Fenn’s statement then perhaps you could post it here because so far the only thing I can see is emotive language posted to divert attention from the real issue.

Quite.

[Lace]

What was what ????

The crying baby in the video is very much good representation of how a distressed child would cry.

‘She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?, ’

Poor child.

If you have any evidence to refute Mrs Fenn’s statement then perhaps you could post it here because so far the only thing I can see is emotive language posted to divert attention from the real issue.

What is the difference between crying of children two and a quarter years old and one of almost four

[Lace]

I knew nothing about this spudgun apart from his name ... I've caught up on a little reading about him after viewing your post ... and I am left wondering from which dark recesses such vitriol for people he doesn't know and who he has never met emanates from.

It doesn't surprise me at all that the first time you saw the video of Madeleine complete with soundtrack was on a blog such as his.  A not terribly subliminal message was being sent out in conjunction with a terribly judgemental and misjudged opinionated mindset.
What a pity it is that more than eleven years after the event a couple of minutes of a phone video which as we have seen on this thread, was released without a soundtrack, is still doing the rounds as an exercise in judging the McCanns ... on this occasion Gerry ... having acquired it's very own soundtrack at some time after release.

Someone called him a journalist [lol]   

[Lace]

With the greatest respect Lace it matters not one jot what you believe. Mrs Fenn said it was the 1st and she was there. That you believe something that the evidence doesn’t support may be comforting to you but would not convince a jury.

The McCann's say it wasn't the 1st and they were there too  -

When asked about the fact her daughter had been crying on the night of the Tuesday for one hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45, she says it is not true. She says that on that night, after midnight, Madeleine went to their room and said that her sister Amelie was crying, and sleep with her and Gerry in their room. She says that before Madeleine appeared in their room, she had already heard Amelie crying, however she did not go to the room, as Madeleine went to the room almost at the same time she head the crying. She does not remember if afterwards she or Gerry went to the childrens' room, however she states that Amelie cried for a short time.

[Robittybob1]

The McCann's say it wasn't the 1st and they were there too  -

When asked about the fact her daughter had been crying on the night of the Tuesday for one hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45, she says it is not true. She says that on that night, after midnight, Madeleine went to their room and said that her sister Amelie was crying, and sleep with her and Gerry in their room. She says that before Madeleine appeared in their room, she had already heard Amelie crying, however she did not go to the room, as Madeleine went to the room almost at the same time she head the crying. She does not remember if afterwards she or Gerry went to the childrens' room, however she states that Amelie cried for a short time.

It is a bit unusual for a daughter to cry out for her "Daddy" isn't it?

[G-Unit]

Madeleine said 'why didn't you come when Sean and me cried'   the McCann's said Amelie was crying,  which makes me wonder if Amelie woke first,  then Sean and then Madeleine it makes sense. IMO

You seem to be mixing up the crying sessions. According to the parents Amelie cried on 1st and Madeleine went and slept with her parents as a result. They then reported that Madeleine asked why they didn't come on 2nd when the twins cried. Later this was changed to Madeleine and Sean.

[G-Unit]

It is a bit unusual for a daughter to cry out for her "Daddy" isn't it?

Why?

[Brietta]

What was what ????

The crying baby in the video is very much good representation of how a distressed child would cry.

‘She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?, ’

Poor child.

If you have any evidence to refute Mrs Fenn’s statement then perhaps you could post it here because so far the only thing I can see is emotive language posted to divert attention from the real issue.

  ...  and in my opinion the real issue concerns why individuals would choose to adulterate video and audio to doctor it to reflect prejudices which are more a part of their psyche than what actually happened.

I remain bemused why you and others wish to promote such obvious misinformation ... for example in the kangaroo court of the internet it appears to be acceptable to post audio of a screaming child as Madeleine McCann.

If you wish a cite for that ... may I refer you to the last sentence of your post and the innuendo contained therein.

[Mr Gray]

What was what ????

The crying baby in the video is very much good representation of how a distressed child would cry.

‘She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?, ’

Poor child.

If you have any evidence to refute Mrs Fenn’s statement then perhaps you could post it here because so far the only thing I can see is emotive language posted to divert attention from the real issue.

Mrs Fenns statement is uncorroborated... IMO it's, quite possible she was mistaken about the time and length of the crying episode

[faithlilly]

The McCann's say it wasn't the 1st and they were there too  -

When asked about the fact her daughter had been crying on the night of the Tuesday for one hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45, she says it is not true. She says that on that night, after midnight, Madeleine went to their room and said that her sister Amelie was crying, and sleep with her and Gerry in their room. She says that before Madeleine appeared in their room, she had already heard Amelie crying, however she did not go to the room, as Madeleine went to the room almost at the same time she head the crying. She does not remember if afterwards she or Gerry went to the childrens' room, however she states that Amelie cried for a short time.

But the McCanns were suspects. Mrs Fenn wasn't.

[Mr Gray]

With the greatest respect Lace it matters not one jot what you believe. Mrs Fenn said it was the 1st and she was there. That you believe something that the evidence doesn’t support may be comforting to you but would not convince a jury.

it matters not a jot what anyone on this forum thinks...and I dont see the McCanns or mrs Fenn being heard by a jury

[slartibartfast]

  ...  and in my opinion the real issue concerns why individuals would choose to adulterate video and audio to doctor it to reflect prejudices which are more a part of their psyche than what actually happened.

I remain bemused why you and others wish to promote such obvious misinformation ... for example in the kangaroo court of the internet it appears to be acceptable to post audio of a screaming child as Madeleine McCann.

If you wish a cite for that ... may I refer you to the last sentence of your post and the innuendo contained therein.

Myth making of he highest order. You have no evidence to support your proposition but state it anyway.

[Brietta]

Myth making of he highest order. You have no evidence to support your proposition but state it anyway.

You know full well that the internet is polluted with adulterated videos and photo-shopped images of the McCanns ... which really cannot be linked to on this forum because not only are they libellous some are obscene.

In my opinion the video under discussion on this thread is merely a less extreme example of a genre.

[slartibartfast]

You know full well that the internet is polluted with adulterated videos and photo-shopped images of the McCanns ... which really cannot be linked to on this forum because not only are they libellous some are obscene.

In my opinion the video under discussion on this thread is merely a less extreme example of a genre.

So no evidence or even pointers, just wishful thinking.