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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #480 on: August 09, 2018, 07:20:55 PM »
The last time we could put a proper handle on this was for 2007 through 2014.
That shows a gross income for the period of £4.25MM with £1.87MM being contributed by book sales and damages awards.

There would seem to be something wrong there somewhere with your arithmetic.
Maybe you should make a correction.......unless of course the hidden subtitle is that all documents filed at Companies House have been tampered with....... *%87
Thank you.  I was hoping you'd make a post that really contributed one day, and it arrived.  Cheers.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #481 on: August 09, 2018, 08:14:02 PM »
Thank you.  I was hoping you'd make a post that really contributed one day, and it arrived.  Cheers.

I'm no expert, but that sounds like goading to me.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #482 on: August 09, 2018, 08:24:46 PM »
As it was announced when the book was released, all profits were to go to the Find Madeleine Fund, so technically it never really was the McCann's money.

That is a thought ... I wonder if Madeleine's parents just didn't want to profit from her disappearance ... which had already proved a cash cow for so many.
In my opinion far better to put it into Madeleine's Fund ... at a time when only they were paying to look for her, as no-one else was bothering with an archived case.
So well done them!

But nonetheless ... don't you find it extraordinary that members have managed to get all the information they want from it for their purposes ... so logic dictates it can't be very secret.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #483 on: August 09, 2018, 08:48:41 PM »
I'm no expert, but that sounds like goading to me.
No more so than the multiple of posters complaining they find Alice's posts too cryptic.  From one extreme to the other.
I sit here as a moderator wondering if I should delete Alice's posts, and I thought "one day there will be one I can understand", and it payed off.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #484 on: August 09, 2018, 09:07:39 PM »
No more so than the multiple of posters complaining they find Alice's posts too cryptic.  From one extreme to the other.
I sit here as a moderator wondering if I should delete Alice's posts, and I thought "one day there will be one I can understand", and it payed off.

Ir you don't understand Alice's posts how can you say they don't 'really contribute'. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #485 on: August 09, 2018, 09:13:31 PM »
Ir you don't understand Alice's posts how can you say they don't 'really contribute'.
From what the others say, I do get what the posts mean.  I work it out.  But should we allow posts to be so difficult?  How would we feel if someone wrote posts in Klingon? 
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« Last Edit: August 09, 2018, 09:20:32 PM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Sunny

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #486 on: August 09, 2018, 09:20:55 PM »
That is a thought ... I wonder if Madeleine's parents just didn't want to profit from her disappearance ... which had already proved a cash cow for so many.
In my opinion far better to put it into Madeleine's Fund ... at a time when only they were paying to look for her, as no-one else was bothering with an archived case.
So well done them!

But nonetheless ... don't you find it extraordinary that members have managed to get all the information they want from it for their purposes ... so logic dictates it can't be very secret.

Have "members found all they want from it" as you say?  Personally I very much doubt it. I don't see the percentage spend on searching, on lawyers, on the "awareness campaign".   IMO those who donated wouldn't expect to have to go to companies house to find the information we have found
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #487 on: August 09, 2018, 10:25:53 PM »
From what the others say, I do get what the posts mean.  I work it out.  But should we allow posts to be so difficult?  How would we feel if someone wrote posts in Klingon? 
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You would prefer that posters didn't use such complex language?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #488 on: August 09, 2018, 10:46:49 PM »
You would prefer that posters didn't use such complex language?
Personally, I would prefer it if posters didn’t post in riddles or use off-topic esoteric and obscure references in an attempt to make themselves look oh-so-very learned, for their own amusement, but each to their own I guess.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #489 on: August 09, 2018, 10:53:06 PM »
Personally, I would prefer it if posters didn’t post in riddles or use off-topic esoteric and obscure references in an attempt to make themselves look oh-so-very learned, for their own amusement, but each to their own I guess.
But as a moderator I don't think it right to lose the plot and remove a post for that reason alone, but on that score I might  have failed now and then.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #490 on: August 09, 2018, 10:57:50 PM »
Have "members found all they want from it" as you say?  Personally I very much doubt it. I don't see the percentage spend on searching, on lawyers, on the "awareness campaign".   IMO those who donated wouldn't expect to have to go to companies house to find the information we have found

The reality is that Madeleine's Fund was on its financial uppers prior to Kate writing a best seller ... the proceeds of which went to a bail out and enable the search for Madeleine to have a cash injection.

Snip
All proceeds from the book will go to the McCanns’ official fund to look for Madeleine, which had been in danger of running out next year.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-gerry-mccann-sign-deal-3390447

In those circumstances don't you think your post reflects arrogance by claiming an unwarranted entitlement.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Sunny

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #491 on: August 09, 2018, 11:00:02 PM »
The reality is that Madeleine's Fund was on its financial uppers prior to Kate writing a best seller ... the proceeds of which went to a bail out and enable the search for Madeleine to have a cash injection.

Snip
All proceeds from the book will go to the McCanns’ official fund to look for Madeleine, which had been in danger of running out next year.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-gerry-mccann-sign-deal-3390447

In those circumstances don't you think your post reflects arrogance by claiming an unwarranted entitlement.

Not particularly no. How many people bought Kate's book believing that every penny would go into the search for Madeleine. How will they know how much is spent on the search?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #492 on: August 09, 2018, 11:21:40 PM »
Not particularly no. How many people bought Kate's book believing that every penny would go into the search for Madeleine. How will they know how much is spent on the search?

Every penny?  How foolish is that?  When I bought mine I read the sticker on the front and I understood exactly what was going to continue the search for Madeleine

What makes you think that anyone who bought Kate's book has the slightest interest further than that?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #493 on: August 09, 2018, 11:31:13 PM »
Personally, I would prefer it if posters didn’t post in riddles or use off-topic esoteric and obscure references in an attempt to make themselves look oh-so-very learned, for their own amusement, but each to their own I guess.

You appear to be here for the same reason old stick so part of the solution is in your own hands as it were.



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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #494 on: August 09, 2018, 11:38:08 PM »
No more so than the multiple of posters complaining they find Alice's posts too cryptic.  From one extreme to the other.
I sit here as a moderator wondering if I should delete Alice's posts, and I thought "one day there will be one I can understand", and it payed off.

Well they know what they can do about that don't they now.[multiple posters? are there that many on here?]
Delete the lot for all I care Rob if you are on some kind of power kick.
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