Timeline May 3rd

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I really do not have a clue what you are trying to say here ... you are not making sense.

You posted that "the shutters were never jemmied" (for the record I'm also of that opinion) but my question to you was why was there talk of jemmied shutters in the UK media by the next day (or certainly in the first two or three days)?

Also - correct me if I'm wrong - but you seem to believe an abduction took place before 9:20pm and that JT saw the abductor. So my other question is - how does Totman fit in with that? SY apparently believe (at least after 2013) that the abductor was not Tannerman (Totman accounted for that sighting) but that it was Smithman - who then became their target of interest. You seem to discount Smithman and believe JT saw an abductor and therefore NOT Totman.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Kate's dabs were on the window. That's evidence. She didn't tell the police she touched the window, she saved that up for Oprah.

Child’s mum touches window in children’s bedroom at some point during the week is evidence that she staged an abduction?  You’re going to have to do better than that.

[Brietta]

You posted that "the shutters were never jemmied" (for the record I'm also of that opinion) but my question to you was why was there talk of jemmied shutters in the UK media by the next day (or certainly in the first two or three days)?

Also - correct me if I'm wrong - but you seem to believe an abduction took place before 9:20pm and that JT saw the abductor. So my other question is - how does Totman fit in with that? SY apparently believe (at least after 2013) that the abductor was not Tannerman (Totman accounted for that sighting) but that it was Smithman - who then became their target of interest. You seem to discount Smithman and believe JT saw an abductor and therefore NOT Totman.

You appear to have read my posts in which I think I have expressed myself succinctly ... when I think you are asking sensible questions worthy of being answered ... please don't hesitate to think of one.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

You appear to have read my posts in which I think I have expressed myself succinctly ... when I think you are asking sensible questions worthy of being answered ... please don't hesitate to think of one.

Where do you think the story came from about the jemmied shutters?

I don't think I can get more succint than that.

[Brietta]

Where do you think the story came from about the jemmied shutters?

I don't think I can get more succint than that.

I know exactly where it originated and I also know it was not a "story".

[Miss Taken Identity]

Where do you think the story came from about the jemmied shutters?

I don't think I can get more succint than that.

No, you can't.

 So you can be assured that the account of MBMs disappearance to the media that evening was via friends and family from Kate and Gerrys mouth. The shutters were jemmied,window was open, curtains were whooshing, Kate just knew MBM has been abducted.  Well she kinda sort of knew that  because she ran to friends, leaving the twins alone, who all ran to the flat to check- all in the room with the twins. sleeping soundly!

They searched a little more in case the abductor was still hiding in plain sight,waiting for a chance to run off with MBM.

Fantastic story... utterly fantastic!

Once these awkward questions were beginning to be asked- the hate fulled T9 took to discredit those who dared to ask them to explain themselves. Vile trolls and all that came from those horrible people who let a child down and refused to accept any responsibility- not one of those cowards have come to discuss what happened in any detail in any documentary or show remorse,or express any feeling of guilt. The silence is deafening!

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I know exactly where it originated and I also know it was not a "story".

Please do elaborate!!

[sadie]

Another Smithman denier.

I've never seen a McCann supporter who thought Smithman was an abductor, so at least we can all agree on something.

I prove you wrong.   

I think that Smithman might be Tannerman and that he stopped off somewhere when he was let down by the getaway driver rushing off panic stricken.   I think that he probably stopped off at the Staff quarters which were about 45 metres up the road from where the first Smith (Peter?) was standing with his group.  He probably visited an accomplice (woman?), made a phone call from there and had a cuppa tea or a quick shot of whisky to calm him … and he also picked up a warm top for Madeleine IMO.

To remind you.  According to someone on the 3A's forum, a scream was heard coming from the Staff quarters.

[Myster]

Way too complex and as daft as your Royal bloodlines.  Brueckner wanted Madeleine for himself and acted alone... that is if he was the abductor.

[Anthro]

Way too complex and as daft as your Royal bloodlines.  Brueckner wanted Madeleine for himself and acted alone... that is if he was the abductor.

I believe much more will be forthcoming, including some of Sadie’s suggestions and research.

[faithlilly]

I believe much more will be forthcoming, including some of Sadie’s suggestions and research.

Which pieces of Sadie’s suggestions and research ?

[sadie]

Which pieces of Sadie’s suggestions and research ?

Sadie hasn't told you most of her suggestions and research, but Anthro knows a little more than most.  She is very good at reading between the lines too.  She has a very sensitive and agile mind … and works really hard uncovering new things.   Some too sensitive to post publicly.  As is much of mine.

…. And your hair would stand up if you saw some of her own research !   POW !

[Lace]

No, you can't.

 So you can be assured that the account of MBMs disappearance to the media that evening was via friends and family from Kate and Gerrys mouth. The shutters were jemmied,window was open, curtains were whooshing, Kate just knew MBM has been abducted.  Well she kinda sort of knew that  because she ran to friends, leaving the twins alone, who all ran to the flat to check- all in the room with the twins. sleeping soundly!

They searched a little more in case the abductor was still hiding in plain sight,waiting for a chance to run off with MBM.

Fantastic story... utterly fantastic!

Once these awkward questions were beginning to be asked- the hate fulled T9 took to discredit those who dared to ask them to explain themselves. Vile trolls and all that came from those horrible people who let a child down and refused to accept any responsibility- not one of those cowards have come to discuss what happened in any detail in any documentary or show remorse,or express any feeling of guilt. The silence is deafening!

What are you talking about?   Gerry rang his sister distraught she said herself she could hardly understand what he was saying he was crying so much.  Gerry no doubt thought the window was broken as it could be opened from the outside,  is it supposed to open from the outside?  They thought the shutters were extra security.  Gerry's sister said the window had been jemmied not Gerry [Chinese whispers]

You don't believe the window was open,  I do.  If I was a mother finding my child missing and a window was open I would think 'abduction'  what parent wouldn't.   Though even with that thought they still searched hoping they were wrong,  they searched in the hope that Madeleine had wandered off not that the abductor was still about.

Your story is fantastic,  you have a very vivid imagination.

[faithlilly]

Sadie hasn't told you most of her suggestions and research, but Anthro knows a little more than most.  She is very good at reading between the lines too.  She has a very sensitive and agile mind … and works really hard uncovering new things.   Some too sensitive to post publicly.  As is much of mine.

…. And your hair would stand up if you saw some of her own research !   POW !

I’m sure my hair would stand up....though to be fair it’s usually my eyebrows that have that pleasure when reading some of Anthro and your theories.

[Miss Taken Identity]

What are you talking about?   Gerry rang his sister distraught she said herself she could hardly understand what he was saying he was crying so much.  Gerry no doubt thought the window was broken as it could be opened from the outside,  is it supposed to open from the outside?  They thought the shutters were extra security.  Gerry's sister said the window had been jemmied not Gerry [Chinese whispers]

You don't believe the window was open,  I do.  If I was a mother finding my child missing and a window was open I would think 'abduction'  what parent wouldn't.   Though even with that thought they still searched hoping they were wrong,  they searched in the hope that Madeleine had wandered off not that the abductor was still about.

Your story is fantastic,  you have a very vivid imagination.

" They thought the shutters were extra security.  Gerry's sister said the window had been jemmied not Gerry [Chinese whispers] "

Oh and you have evidence of this? No, then you have the vivid imagination.

So in essence you are saying not to believe a word any of the McCanns 'spokesperson' says as it is all down to chinese whispers?  OK.

FGS make up your mind "they searched in the hope that Madeleine had wandered off not that the abductor was still about.
 "
She wandered off even though she was abducted? yeah right OK that makes- whew!