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Offline Lace

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #120 on: July 30, 2018, 12:50:09 PM »
Read back on the thread.  Kate did raise concern immediately.

I also believe she raised the issue with the British FLO's.

I believe Kate did raise the issue that the Madeleine and the twins could have been drugged.   Why would they test Madeleine's bed for drugs if they just thought she had woke and wandered?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #121 on: July 30, 2018, 12:52:07 PM »
I believe Kate did raise the issue that the Madeleine and the twins could have been drugged.   Why would they test Madeleine's bed for drugs if they just thought she had woke and wandered?


cite for bed tested for drugs...
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #122 on: July 30, 2018, 12:56:46 PM »

cite for bed tested for drugs...
I can't recall the bed being tested.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #123 on: July 30, 2018, 01:02:17 PM »
I can't recall the bed being tested.

I believe the first forensic examination included sniffing for odours.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #124 on: July 30, 2018, 01:04:28 PM »
I believe the first forensic examination included sniffing for odours.

Who did the sniffing? Any cite for that Brietta?
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Offline Lace

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #125 on: July 30, 2018, 01:08:42 PM »

cite for bed tested for drugs...
The area of the pillow of the bed from the minor disappeared was inspected with the intention to detect the presence of some smell [aroma] characteristic of volatile substances typical of chloroform or ether, this search proving negative


Offline Brietta

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #126 on: July 30, 2018, 01:09:04 PM »
Who did the sniffing? Any cite for that Brietta?

I believe it was the original Portuguese team of forensic investigators ... no point in sniffing at any further remove.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #127 on: July 30, 2018, 01:11:34 PM »
Thanks Brietta and Lace.  Here is the cite Lace

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm
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Offline Lace

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #128 on: July 30, 2018, 01:13:22 PM »

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #129 on: July 30, 2018, 01:14:37 PM »
Only certain drugs- in liquid form, would offer an odour. I have discussed this previously. It would depend how it was administered. e.g oral, annal or injection. It would also depend on the time-scale. How soon after MBM was reported missing. I have also mentioned previously and was shot down by supporters, that Kate being an anaesthetist would have recognised odours of certain drugs.

Airports have sniffer dogs who can select the scent if certain drugs and types of explosives.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #130 on: July 30, 2018, 01:18:29 PM »
Thanks Brietta and Lace.  Here is the cite Lace

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

Thanks Sunny.
I knew it had happened.
It is just one of those things which one reads somewhere at sometime ... but you've saved me a slog of having to find it again.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #131 on: July 30, 2018, 01:32:44 PM »
Read back on the thread.  Kate did raise concern immediately.

I also believe she raised the issue with the British FLO's.

She didn't tell them of her fears about the twins, though, did she?

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #132 on: July 30, 2018, 01:33:43 PM »
Thanks Brietta and Lace.  Here is the cite Lace

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

Thank you Sunny.  Interesting read- difficult to find forensic samples due to the 'traffic' in the bedroom. Obviously it wasn't deemed as a 'crime scene ' by the Tapas... One gets the impression that a lot of people were in that one small bedroom 'searching' for MBM, why else would anyone other than the police go in there?
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Offline Lace

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #133 on: July 30, 2018, 02:42:27 PM »
Thank you Sunny.  Interesting read- difficult to find forensic samples due to the 'traffic' in the bedroom. Obviously it wasn't deemed as a 'crime scene ' by the Tapas... One gets the impression that a lot of people were in that one small bedroom 'searching' for MBM, why else would anyone other than the police go in there?

So,  when finding your child missing, you would immediately think 'no one enter the bedroom it's a crime scene'  would you?

Offline Lace

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #134 on: July 30, 2018, 02:51:14 PM »
She didn't tell them of her fears about the twins, though, did she?

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/STEPHEN_MARKLEY.htm

IMO Kate did tell the police about her concerns for the twins,  Kate mentions it in her book and it is very strange that one of the officers should mention the twins didn't wake up with all the noise going on,  how was he to know they hadn't woken and gone back to sleep?