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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #600 on: August 05, 2018, 09:31:53 PM »
Search of the apartment pre-dates McCanns chat with the FLO so can’t have been as a result of it.
Pharmacy story seems to have no basis in fact.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #601 on: August 05, 2018, 09:34:09 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on August 05, 2018, 09:31:53 PM
Search of the apartment pre-dates McCanns chat with the FLO so can’t have been as a result of it.
Pharmacy story seems to have no basis in fact.
OK IYO what dates are you working with.  Not asking for cites just your impression of the situation.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9913.msg477804#msg477804  G-unit mentions the search at the pharmacies was on the 14th May whereas the FLOs had their meeting with the McCanns on the 5th May.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #602 on: August 05, 2018, 10:51:32 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 05, 2018, 08:55:27 PM
Well then don't claim to know what was raised or not raised in the interview on the 4th.

There is no reason to suspect that things said by the witness were ignored.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #603 on: August 05, 2018, 10:53:24 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 05, 2018, 08:58:22 PM
What is [recorded] is that the McCanns raised the possibility of sedation as early as the 5th May 2007.  Did the FLOs not pass on the McCanns concerns?  If they did, were they ignored by the PJ?  If so, why?
(I have made minor corrections for clarity)

They asked if the PJ had any evidence suggesting that Madeleine was sedated. The answer was no.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #604 on: August 05, 2018, 10:59:31 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 05, 2018, 09:27:17 PM
Other that searching the apartment for drugs, sniffing things and the report of enquires with the chemist.
So it is not no evidence but not much on record.

Did they search 5A for drugs? I know the forensic people  sniffed her pillow. The report about chemists may not be true, it's not in the files.

Whatever the forensic people did was done on 4th. It had nothing to do with the FLO's who arrived on 5th.
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Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #605 on: August 05, 2018, 11:01:29 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 05, 2018, 09:28:48 PM
So of it’s not in the files it didn’t happen, is that your contention?

If it's not in the files there's no evidence that it happened.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #606 on: August 05, 2018, 11:04:10 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 05, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
They asked if the PJ had any evidence suggesting that Madeleine was sedated. The answer was no.
I thought there was no evidence that thr FLOs ever passed on the questions to the PJ?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #607 on: August 05, 2018, 11:06:13 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 05, 2018, 11:01:29 PM
If it's not in the files there's no evidence that it happened.
And yet we know the files do not contain every statement recorded, so what else might be missing?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #608 on: August 05, 2018, 11:58:40 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on August 05, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
They asked if the PJ had any evidence suggesting that Madeleine was sedated. The answer was no.
Cite please.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #609 on: August 06, 2018, 12:07:38 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 05, 2018, 11:58:40 PM
Cite please.

You seem to be almost exclusively targeting G-Unit for cites. Is there any reason for this ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #610 on: August 06, 2018, 12:40:06 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on August 06, 2018, 12:07:38 AM
You seem to be almost exclusively targeting G-Unit for cites. Is there any reason for this ?
Well she is the only one so far making statements that aren't covered by the provisions for opinion.  Generally G-unit and I get on OK, so I'm not picking on her, afaik.

Vertigo Swirl asked for a clarification too http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9913.msg477889#msg477889  so I feel it needs answering.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #611 on: August 06, 2018, 07:06:46 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 05, 2018, 11:04:10 PM
I thought there was no evidence that thr FLOs ever passed on the questions to the PJ?

The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #612 on: August 06, 2018, 07:36:44 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 06, 2018, 07:06:46 AM
The two are not mutually exclusive.
???  According to G-Unit, when asked the PJ said there was no evidence of sedation.  Who asked them and when, and where is their recorded answer?  I think we need a cite, don’t you?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #613 on: August 06, 2018, 07:49:28 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 06, 2018, 07:06:46 AM
The two are not mutually exclusive.
How to work out if two events are mutually exclusive - https://youtu.be/Gxtn1I74M3k

So if VS says "I thought there was no evidence that the FLOs ever passed on the questions to the PJ?"

and it is said that they are not mutually exclusive.   Can we have the FLOs passing on the questions to the PJ and there  being no evidence of the questions being passed on happening at the same time?   Yes so they are not mutually exclusive.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #614 on: August 06, 2018, 08:13:37 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 06, 2018, 07:49:28 AM
How to work out if two events are mutually exclusive - https://youtu.be/Gxtn1I74M3k

So if VS says "I thought there was no evidence that the FLOs ever passed on the questions to the PJ?"

and it is said that they are not mutually exclusive.   Can we have the FLOs passing on the questions to the PJ and there  being no evidence of the questions being passed on happening at the same time?   Yes so they are not mutually exclusive.
G-Unit said “they asked”, but has previously argued that there is no evidence that “they asked”.  Who is “they”?
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