Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?

[misty]

One of the things the McCanns seemed pleased with was that Operation Grange brought together all the scattered information in the case.. Ironically it was scattered in part because of their actions.

Really? Here are just 2 examples of PJ page re-numbering which are confusing.

[Alice Purjorick]

Why is the idea of the existence of two distinct "files" such a difficult concept to grasp?
It does not denote nefarious goings on.......
Jeez! every piece of kit flogged into the EU from your hair drier to a multimillion dollar gas and chemical plant will have two files [at least].

[Robittybob1]

You have misinterpreted what I posted.

I turned your statement into a question. 
"Proof also than thousands more pages are not on the internet."
became "Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?"

OK "not on the internet" became "not in the file on the internet" but they were intended to be the same.  The file being the PJ file on the internet.

Tell me what was wrong with that?

[G-Unit]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Before actually entering the appreciation of the present inquiry it is useful to take a summarised look at the enormous dimension of the inquiry which is constituted of 17 Volumes, with a global processing of approximately 4500 pages, 9 appendixes that are integrated by 55 Volumes, in which 12000 pages and other relevant pieces were gathered, analysed and treated; further 22 dossiers were constituted, with more than 5000 pages, concerning fanciful or senseless news, yet organised out of mere caution.

I'll leave someone else to do the maths & then add up all the pages on the DVD.

The official case file released to the public on DVD comprised 11,223 pages of documents in four parts:


The main case file (Processo: 17 volumes, 4,717 pages) supported by-

the file of sightings around the world (Apenso 5: 14 volumes, 2,550 pages),

other information appendices (Outro Apensos: 21 volumes, 3,407 pages) and

interviews conducted in England under a request for Mutual Legal Assistance.

(Cartas Rogatorias: 9 volumes, 549 pages. Total - 1.07GB.




NB There are many missing pages in Apensos & some in Outros Apensos.

Thank you Misty.

So the DVD contained 11,223 pages.

The process produced 21,500 pages.

That means there are 10,277 pages still under judicial secrecy so they're not on the DVD.

We are told that 5,000 of those pages contained information which was 'fanciful or senseless'.

So we are left with 5,277 pages of information which remains under judicial secrecy because it relates to criminals, Crimewatch calls, operational police information and so on.

[misty]

Why is the idea of the existence of two distinct "files" such a difficult concept to grasp?
It does not denote nefarious goings on.......
Jeez! every piece of kit flogged into the EU from your hair drier to a multimillion dollar gas and chemical plant will have two files [at least].

I think it creates problems when there is incomplete cross-referencing.

[Robittybob1]

I think it creates problems when there is incomplete cross-referencing.

It is also important to know that not all the evidence was presented on the file.

[misty]

I turned your statement into a question. 
"Proof also than thousands more pages are not on the internet."
became "Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?"

OK "not on the internet" became "not in the file on the internet" but they were intended to be the same.  The file being the PJ file on the internet.

Tell me what was wrong with that?

You refer to file in the singular when what's on the net is plural.  Perhaps insert "on the DVD" after "pages"?

[Robittybob1]

You refer to file in the singular when what's on the net is plural.  Perhaps insert "on the DVD" after "pages"?

No you write it so it ends up in the right place please

Are you now saying "Proof also that thousands more pages "on the DVD" are not on the internet."?
 
I find that hard to believe.  Where is the proof of that?  You  write what you mean and then prove it.

I have seen yours and G-unit's maths show there were thousands more pages in the PJ investigation than what is on the internet but why do you say they are still on the DVD?

[Sunny]

There are actually pages within the released DVD files (on the internet) that aren't numbered. I am not planning on counting them but here's one.

[misty]

No you write it so it ends up in the right place please

Are you now saying "Proof also that thousands more pages "on the DVD" are not on the internet."?
 
I find that hard to believe.  Where is the proof of that?  You  write what you mean and then prove it.

I have seen yours and G-unit's maths show there were thousands more pages in the PJ investigation than what is on the internet but why do you say they are still on the DVD?

I cannot change the header of a topic I didn't create.

[Alice Purjorick]

It is also important to know that not all the evidence was presented on the file.

Why?
If anyone bothered to research the process properly it would have been revealed that the PP decides what goes in the case file and what is made available to the public on archiving. It would also have revealed the "docket system".
It is hardly a new earth shattering revelation.

[Robittybob1]

Why?
If anyone bothered to research the process properly it would have been revealed that the PP decides what goes in the case file and what is made available to the public on archiving. It would also have revealed the "docket system".
It is hardly a new earth shattering revelation.

What I meant is that a person shouldn't argue the point and keep on saying "all the files are on the internet".

You seem to agree with my stance that not all the files are on the internet as "the PP decides what goes in the case file and what is made available to the public on archiving".

Thanks for the support.

[Robittybob1]

Misty wrote on the wrong thread -

Quote from: G-Unit on August 10, 2018, 02:30:24 PM
I will be interested to see your evidence.
"A few examples from one volume.
Misty's reply:
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p816
MISSING PAGE
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p965
 
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p966
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p968
MISSING PAGE
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p974
MISSING PAGE
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p981
MISSING PAGE
o_apenso_1_Vol_5_p982
MISSING PAGE

[Robittybob1]

I cannot change the header of a topic I didn't create.

Header topic?   That's the first time you've mentioned the header. 
Write down your suggested header in full and I could change it.

[misty]

Header topic?   That's the first time you've mentioned the header. 
Write down your suggested header in full and I could change it.

I didn't ask for a new topic to be created based around missing pages.